Carrying Gas Bottles in or on Defender

**weeds** · 15th March 2011, 07:58 PM

two straps has got to be better than one.....

**inside** · 15th March 2011, 10:13 PM

Get a dual fuel stove and eliminate gas altogether? A few litres of petrol goes a long way in them.

**Bushie** · 15th March 2011, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by inside

Get a dual fuel stove and eliminate gas altogether? A few litres of petrol goes a long way in them.

Probably not much safer though

Martyn

**Barra1** · 15th March 2011, 11:20 PM

And probably no "unsafer".

May I add "unsafer' for the want of better word.

**jerryd** · 15th March 2011, 11:20 PM

My Series III Dormobile has a cage under the drivers seat that carries two gas bottles

I can only assume that it is illegal in Australia to drive around with them connected to the cooker and fridge.Obviously different laws in the uk
I have taken them out as they tended to rattle about a bit. Is it a different law for motorhomes ?? Caravans ??

**Yorkshire_Jon** · 16th March 2011, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by inside

Get a dual fuel stove and eliminate gas altogether? A few litres of petrol goes a long way in them.

I have an MSR Dual fuel stove - thats great and is pretty much all we use for short trips, but it wont run the BBQ or gas lantern!!

We are going away for 6 weeks and so want maximum flexibility in the cooking department.

**TwoUp** · 16th March 2011, 10:30 AM

Jon,
You need one of those plastic bung, screw in jobbies on the bottle when in transit, it's a law thingy here and outlets won't re-fill without it being there.

If the "bottle" is snug, then it should be OK and the crate will hold up fine. You can use rubber like a section of old push bike tube etc to firm up the bottle in the crate.

In use the crate is good for hanging cooking tools off etc.

Cheers,
PeterW

**Yorkshire_Jon** · 16th March 2011, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by TwoUp

Jon,
You need one of those plastic bung, screw in jobbies on the bottle when in transit, it's a law thingy here and outlets won't re-fill without it being there.

OK, maybe Im being stupid but what plastic thingy? Do you mean the bit I ripped off and threw away when I got the bottle so that I could screw the regulator in?

Sorry if its a stupid question!

J

**TwoUp** · 16th March 2011, 01:31 PM

Yes that's the one. You can purchase them from any outlet. It should be a screw in type. I have a couple with wing nut style and one that is recessed to take a screw driver or coin.

Cheers,
PeterW

**953** · 16th March 2011, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by DeeJay

There are different "laws" for different states.
AFAIK, across Australia, you can carry 2x 9kg in a seperate vehicle enclosure (ie boot) for the purpose of refilling or exchange. Carriage of cylinders in the passenger compartment is a no no. ( ie Defender wagon) although there is no longer brochures or available data on this. LPG recently went from 2WE to 3YE, so petrol regulations may apply.
Laying down of cylinders is also a no no as the relief valve must be able to vent off vapour, & laying it down puts the relief valve under liquid.
Thats not to say these rules aren't regularly broken. I was with 2 energysafe inspectors before Christmas when a Qld plated 4wd parked opposite us with 2 x 4.5 kg bottles strapped to the roof on thier side. The more senior inspector sure saw it & there was plenty of time to say something but he chose to ignore it. If was to say anything to the driver it would be to put some padding between the cylinder I the rack as it was metal to metal, Lets face it, if you put a 4wd on its side with a correctly stored cyl, its not going to be safe anyway.
You can carry 250 litre gross storage on the tray of an open vehicle before dangerous goods laws kick in. This is so a farmer can take 2x45kg's home from town. It used to be 500 litres.
You can also build in a gas compartment to your vehicle, these vent to the outside.
I've been in the LPG industry for 23 years now.

Edit, I just read the Qld rules & it should really say that carraige in an enclosed vehicle can only happen if the vehicle doesn't have a boot. Certainly that is the only state that publicises the regs.

Cheers, David

Hi David, a little off topic but r LPG & propane the same?
I bought a webber baby q & would like to run it off those small propane bottles when I take it camping.
Talking to webber, they say I cant but Ive seen a few USA youtubes where they do this.
I thought it would only be a matter of getting some sort of adaptor & reg?
Any thoughts?
Cheers Dean.

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