Page 6 of 7 FirstFirst ... 4567 LastLast
Results 51 to 60 of 61

Thread: Where to buy tyres - Local, UK or USA?

  1. #51
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Central West NSW
    Posts
    14,148
    Total Downloaded
    99.87 MB
    The difference is in the perspective you are coming from - an overcharging business owner that wants customers to shop local so that he can keep his SWMBO in diamonds, or a switched on customer who is looking for the best price to make things more affordable and keep food on the table.

    When I decided what tyre I wanted, Pirelli gave me the run around with wait times etc. I bought the tyres from tirerack and had them at my door within about 5 working days. That was about 3 years ago now and Pirelli still haven't gotten back to me.

    If that tyre is $400 locally and $300 delivered from OS, then there is very little reason to buy it locally. if I pay someone, then they will fit it or they will plug a puncture but I have no inclination to waste my money on the whole "shop local" if I am just being blatently overcharged - I wont support those businesses who are taking advantage. If they close down, then fine, if they get themselves competitive then even better, but I have no obligation to them. Its much the same as I try not to buy fuel in Orange, my closest town. Last week fuel was 14cpl cheaper in Sydney is it is always cheaper anywhere out of Orange.

    Also, if I can buy that tyre for $300 with airfreight out of the US through a shop as a set of 5, the the local shop will be able to do much better by going to the US wholesaler, buying in bulk even if a mixed order and shipping by sea rather than air. I have no doubt that they would be able to sell very close to what I paid but including their own markup. The standard line is that it is always the wholesaler who is making the money - then do something about it and make them get competitive or sidestep them.
    Cheers
    Slunnie


    ~ Discovery II Td5 ~ Discovery 3dr V8 ~ Series IIa 6cyl ute ~ Series II V8 ute ~

  2. #52
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Sydney, you know. The olympic one.
    Posts
    4,853
    Total Downloaded
    0
    I've suggested exactly that in the past and got looked at very strangely. Issue is people don't want to try, if we could get to the owner it would be a different story since it's his money and name. The front line no longer have a stake and admittedly get paid peanuts so they don't want to try when really theyu should. I've been stuck in places where I have all the ideas in the world to improve heaps of stuff and it all falls on deaf ears.

  3. #53
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Northern Beaches
    Posts
    1,426
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Remember that you are only a small part of a tyre company's business, and their main business would be car tyres. If they were to bypass their wholesaler they might be cut out of the majority of their supply, just to keep one or two customers. They may not be in a position to import large numbers for all types of vehicles. I don't see it as good business sense to cater to a small segment of the market and lose the major income. But then, I don't know much about business?

    Jeff


  4. #54
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Godwin Beach Qld
    Posts
    8,688
    Total Downloaded
    0
    One of the main reasons for delay in supply from local tyre shops/dealers is that they are tied in to contracts by major tyre companies,so it's the major suppliers that set the delivery times, I.E. when they place their stock orders with the manufacturers, plus shipping/containerisation,shipping time, wharfage,customs, so for the majors BJ,GY,Yoko,etc it is all tied into "Lee Time" same with parts,it goes something like this,stock order once a month,order O/s,they state delivery time/date,load container,take to dock wait for available ship to particular Aust port,ship arrives,container dumped into stack at wharf/park, customs get around to looking at it, checked & cleared,truck when available into majors store, clerk then gets around to filling orders,this could and quite often takes between 2-4 months

  5. #55
    Tombie Guest
    Fine... Then lets import Fitters, Electricians and Boiler Makers

    We do it here... OS labour, flown in for the shut down campaigns and paid & accommodated for less than the cost of a local bloke...

    So to all you thieving Fitters, Electricians and Boiler Makers drop your hourly rates... Get back to US/EU type wages... you know... SFA....

    Same as those in the hospitality industries... $5.00 per hour + tips sound good to you?

    You cannot have your lifestyle for what you're asking in the long term...

    Dont buy fuel in your nearby town - Servo closes...
    Other businesses close
    Town "Ghosts"
    So for the savings the convenience of everything else goes to ****.
    Ask the truckie how much he gets for lugging the fuel there...

    just an example....

    Importing 1 offs etc is cheap and easy...
    Importing containers of product, which you pay upfront + taxes etc...
    + interest charges on credit as you got so much gear
    + staff to handle it + warehouse to store it

    This is the reason I never grew TRT to what I envisioned.....
    Because importing and holding product is not competitive...

  6. #56
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    WA
    Posts
    13,786
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Fine... Then lets import Fitters, Electricians and Boiler Makers

    We do it here... OS labour, flown in for the shut down campaigns and paid & accommodated for less than the cost of a local bloke...

    So to all you thieving Fitters, Electricians and Boiler Makers drop your hourly rates... Get back to US/EU type wages... you know... SFA....

    Same as those in the hospitality industries... $5.00 per hour + tips sound good to you?

    You cannot have your lifestyle for what you're asking in the long term...

    Dont buy fuel in your nearby town - Servo closes...
    Other businesses close
    Town "Ghosts"
    So for the savings the convenience of everything else goes to ****.
    Ask the truckie how much he gets for lugging the fuel there...

    just an example....

    Importing 1 offs etc is cheap and easy...
    Importing containers of product, which you pay upfront + taxes etc...
    + interest charges on credit as you got so much gear
    + staff to handle it + warehouse to store it

    This is the reason I never grew TRT to what I envisioned.....
    Because importing and holding product is not competitive...


    There is a similar thread on OL about this topic. I thought this (mostly contrary) opinion from a small business owner was interesting:

    Quote Originally Posted by NICK
    I am in 2 states of mind about this, as a business owner I do agree with the consumers. I get complaints from a local competitor all the time about my price's driving them out of business, I explain that it is there pricing driving them out and thats not my problem.

    I get a phone call abusing me due to the fact I sell product A for $125,

    "you know we use to sell them for $240, and sell ten a week, now we sell none"

    I replied "you know you can buy them online for $100 plus freight making them 125 anyway"

    "yeah, and"

    "and I sell 30 odd a week, 10 online and 20 over the counter, i've meet the market"

    "your an idiot"

    bottom line is, we pay $55 for the product, so are still making excellent profit on it and yes I could sell the product for more, but why? I believe moving it in volume to make the money and I AM selling more than my competitor.

    The other side of the coin, I was buying product "B" from a supplier for $165ea and buying 10-15 a week, I asked if I could get them cheaper buying 50 at a time, they said no as there is no margin in them. I found the supplier in China, bought a container load delivered for $9800 (320units) and now sell them for less than everyone else, I now have 2 more containers on the water.

    Business dont need to work smarter, they need to work better for more profit. I dont think I am taking business away from other small business in Australia. I am keeping the warfies, transport companys, fuel companies aswell as 6 Australians employeed.

    I have a physical business as well as an online business.

    NICK

  7. #57
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Central West NSW
    Posts
    14,148
    Total Downloaded
    99.87 MB
    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Dont buy fuel in your nearby town - Servo closes...
    Other businesses close
    Town "Ghosts"
    So for the savings the convenience of everything else goes to ****.
    Ask the truckie how much he gets for lugging the fuel there...
    They will shut down if they are not needed. A new servo came to town and didn't play the overinflated price game - more in line with everywhere else in the area and this forced the rest of the servos to become more realistic.

    I think the situation really is, get real with the pricing otherwise a competitor will get the business - it's the usual competition thing, or perhaps the other usual one which is to charge what the market will bare... and if they wont bare it, then again that business will either drop their price or close, and if they close it was because they were superfluous anyway as the goods/services were able to be found elsewhere. I'm not a charity to a rich person (well, maybe I am).
    Cheers
    Slunnie


    ~ Discovery II Td5 ~ Discovery 3dr V8 ~ Series IIa 6cyl ute ~ Series II V8 ute ~

  8. #58
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Sydney, you know. The olympic one.
    Posts
    4,853
    Total Downloaded
    0
    I briefly bought in some outdoor gear, mainly to order and was buying at wholesale rates through an overseas retailer (organised on an overseas trip). You could buy the same stuff through a retailer BUT you had to front 50% deposit and you'd only see it in a brochure.

    I had a sample of everything, so could supply one immediately. They would airfreight within same time frames as today, free. Retailer was sea freight and charged extra.

  9. #59
    slug_burner is offline TopicToaster Gold Subscriber
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    4,024
    Total Downloaded
    0
    My wife comes from a mid sized town in North East Victoria. Petrol prices were high, new servo opened up and sold fuel cheaper. He was soon given a visit by the local fuel distributor and told to play the game or else he would have no fuel and no suppliers of other items.

    Maintain the status quo, don't rock the boat when everyone is on a good thing except for the consumer.

  10. #60
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
    Posts
    3,828
    Total Downloaded
    0
    A good friend of mine is currently having big issues with a big name national tire company, no names mentioned, but we'll just refer to his as Rob Lane. Anyones end of last year my mate buys a brand new set of Yokohamas. Specifically got the Yokohamas because the tyre shop sells him on the Yoks warranty for sidewall rips and what not.
    Anyways, two months later one of the treads rips. Tyre is still holding it's air, but it's a far chunk of rubber missing. Goes back to Rob's and they take the details say they'll call him. A week later nothing. Goes in again, speaks to the owner/manager of the franchise, same promise, within 2 days. 3 days later my mate calls them and they put him on hold for 20 minutes while they contact Yokohama to verify the warranty and find a replacement. 2 month wait for the replacement to come in - apparently they are out of stock.

    So anyone care to tell me the advantage of buying local?

Page 6 of 7 FirstFirst ... 4567 LastLast

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Search AULRO.com ONLY!
Search All the Web!