Why do we have steering locks in modern cars ?
Is it a legal requirement for vehicles to have a steering lock ?
- Australian Design Rules ? State legislation ?
Cynical James:twisted:
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Why do we have steering locks in modern cars ?
Is it a legal requirement for vehicles to have a steering lock ?
- Australian Design Rules ? State legislation ?
Cynical James:twisted:
Yes, we are miss ng a couple of things... firstly, allowing LR to get away with this. We do this by *not* seeking a legal remedy, secondly by *not* bringing it to public attention, thirdly by *not* insisting our motoring organizations, insurance companies and Legislators get off their collective backsides and fulfill their roles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celtoid
Bad enough the steering locked up and the engine dying, along with the transmission selector... but at least the hazard flashers should have worked !
- even at 7 volt ...
James the Merciless:twisted::twisted::twisted:
Why????Quote:
Originally Posted by superquag
Hi superquag, the legislation is for a steering lock but, to my knowledge, it makes no specific reference to how this is achieved.Quote:
Originally Posted by superquag
I have not yet found a specific document covering the requirements.
The longer I think about what could have happened, the madder I get.
This is a $170,000 supposedly luxury vehicle that was turned into a potential death trap because Land Rover elected to use a $2 relay and spring, instead of spending the money to design a fail safe system.
It will be interesting to see how far I get with Land Rover Australia!
And people wonder why i dislike modern engines which rely on electronics.
Without looking for the ADR, I think that a requirement for a steering lock or equivalent antitheft device has been in the ADRs since about 1980 - that is when Series 3 Landrovers got them.Quote:
Originally Posted by superquag
John
Because in a vehicle priced at $170,000 I'd expect the hazard lamps -at least - to be LED's, which would glow brighter than ordinary incandescent bulbs at 7.5 volt.Quote:
Originally Posted by garrycol
- not expecting search-light brightness, but even a duller-than-normal output could mean the differance between someone blindly slamming into her or barely swerving in time...
I would'nt be surprised if the Hazards are operated via one of the many computers, and a relay or two...All of which work best at 13.683939845 volt as determined by a faceless engineer.
I'm annoyed too... as that new-ish, on-coming RR seems to be drifting a little bit toooo much towards me.....:(
Which is why I keep my ''rides like a bucket of bolts'' '89 Pajero diesel with its mechanical injection pump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick-Kelly
Put a RR Classic (spring) suspension under her and it would be the better vehicle...
James the Luddite,
'95 Classic with (only one leak ) working Air suspension and nearly working Cruise Control
Hi Garry, if you try the test, make sure your ignition is turned to the ON position and then disconnect the battery lead.Quote:
Originally Posted by garrycol
If your steering locks then there is something very wrong.
I can’t test mine at this time, because I need to find what is pulling so much current before I can test anything.
The really ironic thing is that one of the main reasons I traded my 03 L322 RR in on this death trap was because I had had two front diffs fail and I just didn’t trust the old RR.
And whats even more annoying is that just 3 months after I traded up ( backwards would be a more honest statement ) Land Rover did a world wide upgrade of the diffs at their expense and this included vehicles that were out of warranty.
Certainly they are operated directly by a computer, ie without the use of a relay. However the computer still has to have enough power to run and the LEDS have to operate on a nominal 12V (up to 15v?) so can't be expected to also run on very low voltages. Also as I understand it, the battery registered 7+ volts after having been disconnected, ie with the high current load removed and therefore expected to have been at a voltage lower than 7 volts and falling!Quote:
Originally Posted by superquag
Perhaps hazards need to operate from a separate battery like the alarm system, or even run from the alarm battery so they always work even if there's a dire electrical fault elsewhere. Mine will be converted to run from my aux battery.