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    There must be an enormous potential market for a basic workhorse 4WD with several body styles, designed to be easily maintained and repaired, and it could be built or assembled in India to lower costs, maybe using engines from JLR's proposed new engine plant in England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hay Ewe View Post
    I have jsut followed a Disco 3 for a while and it got me thinking this...

    Bring back the Disco 2, square up the sides a bit and make it 90" 100" or 110" or 130"( probly 90", 110" and 130") and increase the range of interior options.
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    I like the way you think, I had already suggested that but LR dont do things that logically anymore, they obvioulsy dont care about the Australian Market, if they did they would follow toyota a bit more.

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    Just put a Gen II Pajero body on top of a Disco/RR chassis and be done with the LR body for all time...

    Either tart up the Paj bodyshell to make it look 'Land-Rover-ish' or let someone else design/build the coachwork.

    Neither of the above would look as embarrasing as the current 'suggestion'

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR LR jnr. View Post
    I like the way you think, I had already suggested that but LR dont do things that logically anymore, they obvioulsy dont care about the Australian Market, if they did they would follow toyota a bit more.
    Do they not care about the market in Australia or is it from a commercial point. I mean you have to love Defenders and/or have a childhood fantasy (like I did) to own one, and the market here is a bit biased towards the Japanese disposables, they have to get over the build quality and reliability cloud that hangs over them first, then maybe make inroads, like they have done with the other models.

    Just my tuppence worth.

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    They're only selling 20,000 Defenders worldwide, so our share is probably right for our small population.

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    An interesting thought I had on this subject. I have just read "They found our Engineer", and although this is not stated in the book, it is pretty clear that in modern terms, the Centre Steer Landrover prototype should be considered as a "concept car" rather than an actual prototype.

    I am not sure what this means for this concept car discussed in this thread, but it does show that there may be very major changes between the concept car and the showroom.

    On the other hand, it is also clear that if this car is to appear in showrooms when expected, around 2015, then design must be pretty far advanced today.

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    I actually had the opportunity to look very close up at the Range Stormer at the Gaydon Motoring Heritage Centre in Warwickshire. Considering it was the concept for the Range Rover Sport, there is very, and I mean very little resemblance between them. In the video you see the DC100 Sport drive up on to the stage. You can bet a lot of money that it was most probably purely a mocked up shell on something like a Freelander chassis, possibly even a Ford Focus test bed chassis.

    Nobody likes the front end of the DC100 and if it’s ugly it won’t sell. Marketing will listen, even if that’s the only reason and I think we can honestly rest assured that Defender 2 will bear very little resemblance to DC100 in 5 years time.

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    New Defender Suspension Design

    I agree with the 95%

    Its too lifestye and not enough workhorse.

    To me the new Defender should be visually and practically connected to the the old. I want it to look a lot like the old defender, but obviously the new version.

    I hear the new deefa will have all round independant suspension, just like the FJ Crusier.

    I dont like this idea at all, what do others think regarding suspension design on the new Defender? This to me is just a compromise for on road performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by browndogrider1 View Post
    I agree with the 95%

    Its too lifestye and not enough workhorse.

    To me the new Defender should be visually and practically connected to the the old. I want it to look a lot like the old defender, but obviously the new version.

    I hear the new deefa will have all round independant suspension, just like the FJ Crusier.

    I dont like this idea at all, what do others think regarding suspension design on the new Defender? This to me is just a compromise for on road performance.
    Unfortunately you are right. The Discovery 4 in its commercial variant (not available in Australia) can be loaded so heavy that your all up weight makes the vehicle fall into the medium rigid class in the UK. I stand corrected, but I think it actually has a higher loading capacity than a Defender 110!

    Land Rover plans to use the same T5 platform for the new Defender, which by default gives it independent suspension. The current Defender is most probably the last Land Rover ever to have solid axles.

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