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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10
    Ummmm... bit hard to use a bottle jack on sand, Bob
    Rubbish!! <big grin>

    I carry a 300x300mm sheet of 5mm alloy tread plate and have jacked the vehicle in very powdered sand no problem.

    Even worked in bottomless mud, where a nearby individual managed to do nothing but pump his HiLift into the mud!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtreme View Post
    Why?
    Good luck getting the height of a high lift jack in sand , as quick [especially with the tide coming in, and in panic mode], which is why they call them high lift jacks, I suppose. Also, good luck in mud, and slop.However, each to their own, if I see you on the track, you can borrow mine, Bob
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

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    Thanks guys. Looks like you've convinced me to change hi-lift for bottle jack.

    Any makes I should avoid / any model people could recommend?

    Thx
    J
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    Jon

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    WOW, you're easy to convince.......
    What can I sell you......
    maybe something to stretch you mind...... ground tigers testicles in argentinian fig oil perhaps...... hehehhehehehehhehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10
    Good luck getting the height of a high lift jack in sand , as quick [especially with the tide coming in, and in panic mode], which is why they call them high lift jacks, I suppose. Also, good luck in mud, and slop.However, each to their own, if I see you on the track, you can borrow mine, Bob
    Thanks Bob

    Have you ever had to do either recovery?

    I've driven a lot of both types of terrain and yet to do either... (not stirring, really asking) but seen those using their hi lifts struggle as much as those with a bottle jack!

    And on sand "max trax" will get you out much quicker than a jack...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Thanks Bob

    Have you ever had to do either recovery?

    I've driven a lot of both types of terrain and yet to do either... (not stirring, really asking) but seen those using their hi lifts struggle as much as those with a bottle jack!

    And on sand "max trax" will get you out much quicker than a jack...

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    Unfortunately, yes, due to my inexperience, and foolishness, took up my mates challenge to do some " real " 4wdriving, got myself into all sorts of strife, but we got out of it. Eventually. I really would hate to try to recover with a bottle jack,but that could be just my inexperience talking.And, Max Trax are on the list [it's a big list] . Bob
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Thanks Bob..

    Yes, you are right... Getting stuck is a big, fast learning curve for sure.

    IME a long shovel, decent lift bottle jack and base plate and a set of 'max trax' or waffle boards will get you on you way in 80-90% of situations.

    The other 10-20% will require hard work, sweat and a winch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Thanks Bob..

    Yes, you are right... Getting stuck is a big, fast learning curve for sure.

    IME a long shovel, decent lift bottle jack and base plate and a set of 'max trax' or waffle boards will get you on you way in 80-90% of situations.

    The other 10-20% will require hard work, sweat and a winch

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    I agree Tombie, have to say the only time I have been stuck is when we've gone looking for trouble. In the normal course of things, I don't use any recovery gear.Even coming back from Karumba last November, down the Gregory development road from Charters Towers to Clermont, with about 300 mm. of water over the road in a lot of places, the D2 just pushed on. [luckily all bitumen, and just as luckily, no washouts.]Thinking about it the only time I have been stuck is when I've been with my mate [ who is going thru his 3rd mid life crisis ], he was mumbling something the other day about tandem parachute jumping! God help us, at least there's never a dull moment Bob
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    I do agree that you can get by just using a bottle jack a lot of the time (changing a tyre, lifting a wheel to pack rocks under it) you do occasionally come up against situation where a Hi lift is a brilliant piece of kit.

    The most recent time where the hi lift was the only option was when a friend managed to get his jeep propped up on a log.

    From the photo (sorry about the quality) you can see how he had managed to get two wheel either side of the log, sitting on the axles. Now we couldn't winch or snatch him out of there.
    So we put the hi lift under the front bar, lifted it until the front wheel was higher than the log then we just pushed the high lift over. This gave him three wheels on one side and he could drive away without the damage we would have caused by snatching,

    I bit of a long story, but the point is you are better off to have the option of the hi lift. It's not the most used recovery equipment but some times there is nothing else that will do the job.

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    Do not know what landrover you drive, but if your spare tyre is on the outside Disco, Defender, some series, etc. Longer bolts on the tyre carier will hold some highlift Jacks on some vechiles. Also seen them attached to bulbars, etc.

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