I'm pretty useless at anything mechanicalso would appreciate any good tips on making roadside repairs to blown rubbers on my shock absorbers (terra firmas).
I've managed to succussfully change a top rubber on one of the front shockiesbut when a bottom rear rubber went, I couldn't get the nut off to change the rubber
- even with the wife hanging onto the bottom of the shock with a pair of multi-grips. (It ended up taking two mechanics and a bloody huge plumbers wrench to get that nut off).
I'm going through a few rubbers (two so far and two more on the way out) so making roadside repairs seems like a good think to know!
Also, is it usual to expect to go through so many rubbers? We've done quite a few kays over the past couple of months on rough and corrugated roads, so perhaps it is?
If you happen to have onboard air, use a rattle gun.
I agree with isuzurover however - they should last at least a few years.
James.
I used to use an oil filter wrench to hold the shock still, one of the round enclosed types, i would remove a screw, wrap it around the shock and re fit the screw. You may need a rag between the chock and the wrench or better yet drill an extra hole in the wrench. These days I use the electric impact gun I bought from Aldi for 50 bucks. They were marketed as an electric wheel nut remover and plug into your ciggerette lighter. ARB sells them for about the same price. I have used it to change shocks in everything from the wifes crumble door up to my old sbr isuzu. I would be asking why the rubbers are failing though, they should last as long as the shocker.
The most common reason that shock absorber rubbers fail is because most people do the retaining nut up way to tight crushing the rubber.The nut only has to be done up tight enough to remove any freeplay,and not compress the rubber,like most seem to think.
Wayne
Wayne
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Thanks everyone for the useful suggestions. Given the views that the rubbers should be lasting better, I'm wondering whether the oil leaks we're also having might be contributing to early deterioration of the rubbers (though I don't think the leaks are any more than you'd expect in an old defender). The shocks have only been on the vehicle for about 3 or 4 months, so the rubbers are also only about three/four months old and were installed by a trusted landrover mechanic.
Thanks LowRanger - I did also wonder about that. I'll check the torque settings in the w/shop manual.
The most common reason that shock absorber rubbers fail is because most people do the retaining nut up way to tight crushing the rubber.The nut only has to be done up tight enough to remove any freeplay,and not compress the rubber,like most seem to think.
Wayne
Wayne sorry but I disagree. The nut should be done up until it grounds on the shoulder of the shock. That is what it is there for. Its cowboys who keep rattling for a while that make the nuts hard to shift.
I have never had rubbers die prematurely.
The reason that some shocks do rubbers is that they are far too stiff and destroy RUBBER rubbers. The answer here if you really want such stiff shocks is to repalce with poly rubbers, and introduce harshness.
I bought some TJM shocks many years ago that killed the bushes in about 500Km,When I complained TJM apologised and sent me some poly bushes and a Maglight! I took the shocks out as they were ridiculously stiff.
Regards Philip A
Aah, I did wonder about that too. This is the first time we've had these troubles, and it does coincide with the fact that we've put on big bore TerraFirma shocks which give a much harder ride. I thought the bigger bore might be better suited for handling long distances on corrugations . . . .
Its not quite as easy as that! Big bore shocks can either be very stiff, or designed to have a large resevoir and thus handle / dissipate heat better, leading to less fade over corrugations. I suppose the third option is both!
For example, the Tough Dog Ralph's are an excellent at load carrying, and have a huge oil capacity. They are fantastic for heavily loaded vehicles that do a lot of work on corrugations. DOWNSIDE, they do eat the rubber bushes.
It stands to reason when you think about it. The spring absorbs the bumps from the road and the shock absorbs the the resulting vehicle movement. If the shock is too stiff then its the rubbers that have to absorb that movement, hence premature failure.
Sounds like your shocks are poorly matched to your vehicle setup. As others have said, you may get away with using poly-bushes instead, but be warned you are simply moving the point of failure to the chassis mounts! I'd try the blue polybush (from memory its the softest one they do, but still harder than rubber).
HTH.
J
Regards,
Jon
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