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    I got bitten by a Red Back a few months ago reaching up inside the side of the boat and besides feeling a little 'flat' for a few days was fine.

    The white tip bite I got did nothing but go red and itch for a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VladTepes View Post
    Hmm that's NOT what the St Johns Ambulance people haveto say about them in their first aid courses.
    What can I say then the trainers are clowns. As them to back up their claims with evidence and clinical research.
    WA St John no longer teach this, have not for years and the original documentation was disputed from day one. Long term investigation has disproven this myth.
    A friend of mine was one of the few that suffered an adverse reaction and was one of the first in WA to be treated and was originally classified this way. What they did find out was it actually has nothing to do with the spider bite, but the adverse reaction that the bacteria have with the persons antibodies and immune system.
    I can not recall the exact figures but I did have most of the documented research and the cahnces of someone suffering a reaction like this was around 0.0001%, miniscule.
    I have also spent time on the phone with researchers at the WAMuseum.
    It is a bit like the myth that the Brown Recluse is in Australaia. Fabricated by people with nothing to do than create fear. The Brown Recluse is one spider thats bite does cause Necrosis, but even that is not common and rather an exception.
    I had someone show me a brown recluse after viewing the pics, It was in fact a Huntsman.
    Most of the so called white tail or white tip spider bite photos that have been circulated are in fact US pics of a Brown Recluse bite, backed up by looking at the pics closely and observing power supplies, faucets, equipment, medical layouts and even publications that show they are US pics. Nearly all of the pics I have been sent of a so caled white tail spider bite come from one batch of pictures and one bite. They are found really easy using google. These pics and emails usually pop up every year or so and have been doing the rounds for well over a decade.
    Bear in mind any animal bite with bacteria can cause necrosis.
    You have much more chance of getting this type of infection from a lizard bite.
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    Who would you believe The St John's Ambulance and Marching Brigade or the Department of Health http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/policie...GL2007_006.pdf?

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    Yep, page 54

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Who would you believe The St John's Ambulance and Marching Brigade or the Department of Health http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/policie...GL2007_006.pdf?
    I always pay full attention to the girls marching brigades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Who would you believe The St John's Ambulance and Marching Brigade or the Department of Health http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/policie...GL2007_006.pdf?
    Thanks for that I was just going to try and locate something similar that came out in WA. Why St John in Eastern States are still purporting it I dont know. I know WA have dispelled it.
    I think we had exactly this conversation and thread a while back at least once, probablly more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigE View Post
    Firts question is why?
    There are many many myths about white tip or white tail spiders and they are exactly that myths,
    Yes a necrotic infection is a remote possibility but that is more down to the persons blood makeup and is generally a result from a bacteria coss contamination and reaction with the persons blood.
    I will repeat they are not a dangerous spider.

    Tell that to a lady I know who was bitten on the forearm by a white tip spider and after several months of treatment, finished up losing her arm up to the elbow!!! I guess that was some allergic reaction!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausfree View Post
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    Tell that to a lady I know who was bitten on the forearm by a white tip spider and after several months of treatment, finished up losing her arm up to the elbow!!! I guess that was some allergic reaction!!
    Don't let the facts get in the way of a good myth.
    Which lady?
    Where did it happen?
    When did it happen?

    Did they catch the spider?

    Remember people have died from bee stings, not because of the sting but because of their particular blood make up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bacicat2000 View Post

    They do hurt a bit, but only about as much as a large garden spider type bite - never had one bite me on the bum though. I have been bitten on the hand by one while relocating it outside - they seem to have a bad temper.... Huntsman don't generally bite unless you really **** them off, but if they do get you, you know all about it...
    Good party trick is to put a huntsman in your mouth, makes some boys shriek like girls

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    I'd worry less about a spider bite, than driving your land rover

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