Thread: White tip spiders

You will find that the person that suffers badly from the white tail bite is the same type of person who is allergic to bee stings. To most of us a bee sting is rather painful for a bit, but can be fatal to a very small minority of people.

Dave.

Originally Posted by rovercare

I'd worry less about a spider bite, than driving your land rover

Now that is a dangerous animal.................necrosis of the wallet, I have suffered from this for many years and it is not only the unexplained disappearance of money, but the on-set of dementia and possible divorce that is a concern - at least White Tails potentially only take a limb and not half your soul and worldly possessions. CraigE if you can find research that can help alleviate this condition, I would be very appreciative.

Rick

Originally Posted by bacicat2000

that's great! Never tried that, and probably not likely to now. I used to handle Huntsmen all the time, and at one stage, had a bloody family of them in the house. I picked a big bugger up one day to show a friend they were harmless, and he bit me in the palm of my hand. It didn't half hurt!

I don't pick them up so much any more, but still move the odd one on.

Yep I got bitten by a big one while removing weed mats from around trees. It really hurt, and you could see the puncture holes for a good couple of days

Originally Posted by Ausfree

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Tell that to a lady I know who was bitten on the forearm by a white tip spider and after several months of treatment, finished up losing her arm up to the elbow!!! I guess that was some allergic reaction!!

Sorry even if this did happen and most of these stories are Urban Myth and generally people can not back up these stories, it IS NOT the spider bite that causes the issue, it is the allergic reaction the persons body has with a bacterial infection. In general the necrosis stories are false. You can get small lesions from any spider bite that will cause the immediate skin area to die off and that is normal, spreading necrosis does not occur due to a spider bite, with maybe the exception being the brown Recluse Spider in the US and even wide spread necrosis spreading is rare, with it usually being contained to the immediate area with treatment. I reiterate here US not here.
Personally I do know a lady (wife of a workmate) that had an adverse reaction and was one of the early people in Australia to suffer this type of reaction about 20 years ago. Initially the white tailed spider was blamed and medical directives and research supported the stance initially. After many years of extensive research it was found to be a myth and actually nothing to do with the spider bite itself. It was to do with the make up of the persons haemotolgy and adverse allergic reactions. Yes it has adversely affected her for life, but she also knows now that she was susceptible to this type of infection anyway and could have come from many more sources.
Not much different from people who suffer allergic reactions to bees, pollen, nuts etc.
By all means if you have clinical research and supportive documentation that supports the claim put it up, we would all be interested and amazed.
There is so much clinical research that disproves this all it takes is a bit of research. I have medical books and journals, spider books and research sitting in front of me right now that dispell this myth.
The lady losing her arm is tragic, but I can almost guarantee you it was from infection, not the initial spider bite.

Originally Posted by black betty

Yep I got bitten by a big one while removing weed mats from around trees. It really hurt, and you could see the puncture holes for a good couple of days

Quite normal fro any spider bite with decent fangs.
Huntsmans will leave similar, same with red backs. I have been bitten by a red back and it was a trippy day, fever, hot cold sweats, hallucinations and fatigue.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good myth.
Which lady?
Where did it happen?
When did it happen?

Did they catch the spider?

Remember people have died from bee stings, not because of the sting but because of their particular blood make up.

Don't make a joke of it mate, she lives at Caves Beach near Newcastle and went to Sydney's Prince of Wales Hospital for treatment. No, I'm not about to tell who she is because that is a private matter for her!! They caught the spider, by the way!!

Originally Posted by Mr Whippy

You will find that the person that suffers badly from the white tail bite is the same type of person who is allergic to bee stings. To most of us a bee sting is rather painful for a bit, but can be fatal to a very small minority of people.

Dave.

Yep, I will go along with that. Some people have different reactions to various things like peanuts, seafood, bee stings etc. I would say the lady I am referring to had a very bad allergic reaction to a white tail spider bite!!

Originally Posted by CraigE

Sorry even if this did happen and most of these stories are Urban Myth and generally people can not back up these stories, it IS NOT the spider bite that causes the issue, it is the allergic reaction the persons body has with a bacterial infection. In general the necrosis stories are false. You can get small lesions from any spider bite that will cause the immediate skin area to die off and that is normal, spreading necrosis does not occur due to a spider bite, with maybe the exception being the brown Recluse Spider in the US and even wide spread necrosis spreading is rare, with it usually being contained to the immediate area with treatment. I reiterate here US not here.
Personally I do know a lady (wife of a workmate) that had an adverse reaction and was one of the early people in Australia to suffer this type of reaction about 20 years ago. Initially the white tailed spider was blamed and medical directives and research supported the stance initially. After many years of extensive research it was found to be a myth and actually nothing to do with the spider bite itself. It was to do with the make up of the persons haemotolgy and adverse allergic reactions. Yes it has adversely affected her for life, but she also knows now that she was susceptible to this type of infection anyway and could have come from many more sources.
Not much different from people who suffer allergic reactions to bees, pollen, nuts etc.
By all means if you have clinical research and supportive documentation that supports the claim put it up, we would all be interested and amazed.
There is so much clinical research that disproves this all it takes is a bit of research. I have medical books and journals, spider books and research sitting in front of me right now that dispell this myth.
The lady losing her arm is tragic, but I can almost guarantee you it was from infection, not the initial spider bite.

Fully agree mate, look I am not saying the bite was toxic, what I am saying is the reaction in this particular woman ,caused the loss of her arm, they tried for six months with her and she went through injections similiar to chemotherapy to save her arm but in the end she lost the arm, very tragic!!