Thread: 300Tdi vs Td5

thats a can of worms...

isuzus a tractor of an engine, the last of the cast iron engines, you'll put the same engine through about 3 rovers before you kill it, 1M km easy. very agricultural. you get the sals and typically the lt95 All basically built to last buy this one and leave it to your grand kids to leave to their children

the tdi300 is the last of the "traditional" style engines you can fix it anywhere with very little gear or capability. not as powerful as the td5 in stock trim but td5 performance can be wrangled from it. a nice economical engine that does require judicious use of the transmission to get the best out of it. in this series of the 110 you still get the sals but you also get the r380 5 speed, a nice combination

the td5 is the first "technical" engine, good economy great power but needs proper maintenance and diagnostic tools experience to do the correct fault finding on it. some models come with ABS and TC some have that and the sals down the back. Good till you break it and then you had better have a damn good relation ship with your bank balance.


the tdi300 is probably the most common and likely to be the best bang for buck for you to cut your teeth into the 110 world.

They will all tow a horse float. The 3.9 Isuzu with an aftermarket turbo fit would do it easiest.

The other two 300 Tdi and Td5 come with a turbo but are both only 2.5 ltr engines. They will tow a horse float but you just have to be patient as 300 tdi is good for about 83 kila wasps the TD5 about 91 kW, the 3.9 normally aspirated is only good for about 66 kW but it is all torque as it doesn't rev anywhere near 4000 rpm which the others are capable of.

300 Tdi will be most available/affordable.

Did we get any TD5 110 cab chassis's here? If you specifically want 110 cab chassis I would have thought Tdi would be your only choice.


James.

Originally Posted by slug_burner

The other two 300 Tdi and Td5 come with a turbo but are both only 2.5 ltr engines. They will tow a horse float but you just have to be patient as 300 tdi is good for about 83 kila wasps the TD5 about 91 kW, the 3.9 normally aspirated is only good for about 66 kW but it is all torque as it doesn't rev anywhere near 4000 rpm which the others are capable of.

The Td5 is 101kw out of the box on a D2, and can be lightly chipped to give an extra 30% horsepower & 25% more torque (130kw & 425nM) ... same as the Td5 in the Deefer ...

... it can be chipped heavier, but then there's extensive engine upgrades required to make the heavier chipping work efficiently.

.... the turbo'd 3.9 Isuzu sounds like a plan though!

Originally Posted by slug_burner

They will all tow a horse float. The 3.9 Isuzu with an aftermarket turbo fit would do it easiest. .

I will second that. I just towed a 5m plate alloy boat 5000 km with my 3.9Tdi 110. You couldn't even feel that the boat was there - except that EGTs were ~50oC higher at the same speed (compared to no trailer) and fuel consumption was higher.

EDIT - I also own a 300Tdi disco (stock). Not in the same class as a stock 4BD1T for towing by any stretch of the imagination.

A work mate has a 1998 fender , he wanted more grunt and put in a Isuzu turbo diesel 3 lt brought from a truck wreckers called Soltoggio's .
I do not know the exact model suffice to say I have driven it and can honestly say it is a freight train . the conversion cost him 6k and is so punchy .
Mine is a 300tdi 97 Fender and although I lurve her , i would do that conversion if i had the coin .

His next move is to put a zf in it !
He tows one of those Conqueror camper trailers everywhere and doesn't even notice it

Originally Posted by Sith

A work mate has a 1998 fender , he wanted more grunt and put in a Isuzu turbo diesel 3 lt brought from a truck wreckers called Soltoggio's .
I do not know the exact model suffice to say I have driven it and can honestly say it is a freight train . the conversion cost him 6k and is so punchy .
Mine is a 300tdi 97 Fender and although I lurve her , i would do that conversion if i had the coin .

His next move is to put a zf in it !
He tows one of those Conqueror camper trailers everywhere and doesn't even notice it

It is probably the 3ltr Isuzu 4JJ1 or 4JH1 from the Rodeo/Colorado

Originally Posted by slug_burner

It is probably the 3ltr Isuzu 4JJ1 or 4JH1 from the Rodeo/Colorado

Unlikely as Soltoggios only wreck trucks, not 4x4s.

However I believe the 4JB1T and maybe some other 4J engines were fitted to trucks.

Any chance of a pic or more info Sith?

EDIT - the NKR200 had a 4JH1-T - 3.0L direct injection. It would be interesting to see some pics if that is the engine fitted.