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mum a dad have a 89 pajero
that they drove into the groundin the bush north of here you see more of these parked under trees than you do landies.
neighbours loved the hyundia terracan.
i see lots of these outlanders without a towbar..
but there are no new pajero around here-i ive seen enough laying on there side on the hyway to agree that they arnt an off road vehicle.
ForumSage
... sounds like the 'KAMAZ' truck is the only "real" 4WD that can be safely (ab)used the way we thought we used them.
I'd hazard a guess and say that the older GEN I and GEN II Pajeros were a lot more reliable (and stronger?) than the current crop. Certainly less complicated... and easier to maintain in the field (Dakar etc)
ForumSage
My standby car is an 89 turbo-diesel Paj. Bugger just keeps on going, HEAPS more interior room than ANY Range Rover ... rides like a truck, IS a cart-sprung truck, but a fantastic shopping trolley as well as general use. - Better turning circle than my '95 RRC. Well, it feels tighter, even with the Rangey on 2WD...Originally Posted by Davehoos
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The Paris-Dakar Pajero were no more a regular Pajero than a Bowler is a regular Range Rover.... sounds like the 'KAMAZ' truck is the only "real" 4WD that can be safely (ab)used the way we thought we used them.
I'd hazard a guess and say that the older GEN I and GEN II Pajeros were a lot more reliable (and stronger?) than the current crop. Certainly less complicated... and easier to maintain in the field (Dakar etc)
You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.
Fossicker
SupporterFit for purpose is the consumer affairs lingo. Hard to argue that a 4wd shouldn't be used off road.
I had a LR and now own a Pajero.
Both have had no warranty claim problems regardless of offroad use. The Freelander I had sustained quite a bit of damage underneath so it was plainly obviously it was used. Granted, I had to fight for some claims with them but that was down to attitude of the company, not the use of vehicle (they never brought it up).
I think the original story is not the full truth.
Any company which tried that on (deny warranty claim for offroad use) would be in breach of fitness for purpose parts of statutory law. End of story.
If you do something stupid like drown it or abuse it though, expect no warranty support.
Having owned a Pajero for a while now, my view is that Mitsubishi support their 4WDs quite well.
YarnMaster
SupporterKamaz are pretty basic, My wife's cousin drives one from Russia to Uzbekistan for his job, near 800,000 ks on the clock onto second engine recently, he carries heavy loads all the time in all weathers and seasons, I would have one in a minute but could not be used on the roads in Aus or NZ legally... sounds like the 'KAMAZ' truck is the only "real" 4WD that can be safely (ab)used the way we thought we used them.
I'd hazard a guess and say that the older GEN I and GEN II Pajeros were a lot more reliable (and stronger?) than the current crop. Certainly less complicated... and easier to maintain in the field (Dakar etc)
100% right, I heard about this before, they have to stand by their product under law, its like buying a boat you cant get wet.
Master
I know for a fact that they will warranty a Prado after it's been off road.
My folks have one and it was off road in the paddock 20 mins after they bought it new and has done everything from corrugated sandy roads to muddy rutted and rocky tracks.
When it did it's first clutch they covered it under warranty no problem and replaced some damaged bash plates underneath as well for free.
It wasn't until it was out of warranty that Mum has had trouble with Toyota and getting it fixed.
Seems if you want to pay them to fix it, it's too much trouble
Cheers Casper
Master
Pajero Specifications - Pajero Specs - 4WD - SUV - Mitsubishi Australia... sounds like the 'KAMAZ' truck is the only "real" 4WD that can be safely (ab)used the way we thought we used them.
I'd hazard a guess and say that the older GEN I and GEN II Pajeros were a lot more reliable (and stronger?) than the current crop. Certainly less complicated... and easier to maintain in the field (Dakar etc)
On the front page you have a picture of one going through a river crossing.
The Specs give it a ground clearance of 225mm and a fording depth of 700mm.
By rights this thing should be up against Deefa's off road.
The older Pajero's were based on the Series 1 XJ Jeep Cherokee, one of the worlds best selling 4wd wagons but added Independant front end for better on road handling.
When they came out in the early 80s, some family friends (He worked for Mitsubishi/Chrysler) bought one and then brought it up to the farm to try it out.
It was rather good and was as capable if not more than my old mans Isuzu KB40 we had at the time.
They upgraded from that several years later to the L300 4wd which had all the bells and whistles and they had that for years.
I think it ended up rusting away mostly, they were both very capable and very reliable.
We had a 92 Triton through the 90s which is still pulling my brother in laws boat in and out of the water in WA to this day but not used for much else.
The older Bitsaremissing cars were pretty good but the newer ones are a bit too much on the plastic luxo side of things for me, I wouldn't feel too comfortable taking one off road anywhere remote.
Cheers Casper
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