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    Having consumed a few fields in my youth and having lost a dear friend to the knock on effects (yes of course dealers will tell you 'it's cool man it's a natural product it won't hurt you) but fail to mention the potential effects on the psychologically weakened mental demeanor.
    Obviously psychosis and schizophrenia are not effects that will touch everyone's life who use it, but it's worth a consideration that the fun times can turn to crap, and also that dealers are selling a product to either make a profit or cover their habit, with a vested interest are they likely to be telling you the gospel?


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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
    I'm not a user and never will be. I have no understanding of why people use it.
    Are you a drinker but?


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    Can offer experience here.
    I WAS a stoner,from 15 until 38,now 46.
    Why did it stop??? Had a workplace back injury and the meds did not match or mix with the weed.Had some very interesting experiences.
    Anyhow,if I was drug tested whilst on compo(2 years) it could have stuffed my claim.The weed worked MUCH better than the prescribed meds for relief.
    All the stuff I smoked was organic,Im a very good vegi gardener.
    I believe the problems now with dope is all the hydro crap and what they pump into it.
    Do I now smoke,no.Since quitting,smoked 2 cones 4 years ago.Organic dope addictive,not at all.
    Brain damage??? I run a crew of road workers and operate a grader,no I dont think so.
    Would I take it up again???
    No not at the moment,mates smoke it around me and offer,I dont do it.In retierement HELL YEAH!!!! But only my own.
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    Never hurt me or my career, in fact I'd say it helped whilst my workmates were strung out I was relaxed and calm, being able to work through problems rationally and without stress.

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    well where to begin.............first tried it when I was 14 or so and didn't think too much of it - yes I got the giggles etc but that was about it. Steered well clear of it until year 12 when a surfing injury and shear boredom resulted in me having what started as the occasional cone - it was great, didn't feel pain & laughed like a madman with my mates for hours on end following a session. I got over my injury to a certain extent (physically fine - mentally well I still won't take on anything bigger than head high or so) but kept on smoking out of enjoyment more than anything. Towards the end of year 12 I'd progressed from weekends only to every other day & sometimes before a surf but defo after a surf - even if it was a dawn patrol & I had school to attend to. I was soon known as someone to go to score from but thought it too criminal to sell & just supplied to 'close' friends whenever I got an oz or went halves/quarts when it was time to buy. As soon as Year 12 finished I got a traineeship with a state govt dept and thought that would be my smoking days over with. Pretty much everyone I worked with had an addiction of some sort and didn't care what you did so long as you turned up for your shift..........yep you guessed it wasn't too long before I was pulling cones from sun up to sun down. I didn't think too much of it at first - I was physically fit, didn't have an ounce of fat on me (smoking as much as I was you don't get the munchies & don't really want to waste time eating as it straightens you up), every activity I did I had to be stoned, we'd go mountain biking and pack the bong - my 4B had a section dedicated to storing the bong and pot so cones were always at hand. Then I started having to hide my use from the girlfriend at the time as she said I had a problem - got difficult to do sometimes but thankfully shift work meant I was always 'tired'. We ended up splitting and my usage went to new highs (get it) I was smoking nearly two oz a week & constantly broke so I grew my own & ended up smoking 3 oz a week......surprise surprise I was diagnosed with depression before my 22nd birthday but kept smoking with meds they put me on (got extremely cranky when I had no smoke so was convinced the meds didn't work) At 25 I started a relationship with wife, who at first didn't mind my smoking but within a few months had me cutting down my usage and rationing my pot allowance out - I would sniff out the stashes around the house and tax a little bit when she was at work.........we eloped to the Nth West to marry which is when I was given the choice of having her in my life or having pot..........it was a fairly stressful month or so with no pot prior to the wedding and we came close to splitting on more than one occasion. We returned to Perth 3 months later and I started back into my old habits fairly easily. Thought nothing wrong of pulling cones in the work truck then playing with chainsaws and chippers. Fast forward a few years and my daughter was born, had a session to celebrate and then no more. I now work in the resources sector where D&A's are a fact of life (& I conduct a % of them) it is not worth the risk to my reputation or more importantly my family that I return to my old ways. I still suffer bouts of depression but don't get the suicidal thoughts I use to. As a gate way drug I'd have to disagree - apart from trips/acid (very occasional) I never tried anything else. Would I smoke pot again? well yes but i have too much to lose & have an addictive nature. I've done alot of things I'm not proud of during my years of use that I won't disclose to even my wife. If and its a big if I had used in moderation it may not of been the addiction it was for me. Everyone is different, this was part of my story.

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    No worries

    Being a regular smoker for the past 20 plus years I have enjoyed smoking weed, it affects different people in different ways, for me it relaxes and takes the edge off after work and on the weekends, it is like most things, if you abuse it then it will catch up with you but smoking it in a social environment and being smart about it, eg not before work or driving can be very rewarding,

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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
    I'm not a user and never will be. I have no understanding of why people use it.
    For the same reasons you crack a bottle of red (and no, I'm not a user either, never have been)

    An old friend smoked dope instead of drinking as marijuana chilled him out, with alcohol he became violent.

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    My brother and his girlfriend are heavy users, have been for 30 years. They both seem more paranoid, less tolerant, and more agro then most people. They have many of the symptoms previously mentioned. They both think nothing is wrong with pot. Both attend work, drive cars, and spend much of their life stoned. Both don't have many friends and are not that great socially.

    IMO I'd say alcohol has been responsible for more ills in society than pot.
    I think drugs are the curse of human race. Perhaps they are all ok in moderation, but there are many people for many reasons who can't do moderation.

    On the other hand, is a person driving a car stoned or drunk, any more dangerous than someone texting. It's only a matter of time.

    Good topic, and good luck with the assignment. Broaden you feedback however. Landy drivers are typically more conservative than say Patrol drivers. And older people will be more against drugs than young people generally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newhue View Post
    Landy drivers are typically more conservative than say Patrol drivers.
    Are you suggesting that people have to be stoned to buy "other makes"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo68 View Post
    You could apply all 6 of those to alcohol....but the list would keep on going......and like alcohol as with pot if it is consumed in high levels as with food for example...there is going to be a downside.

    As I noted.....I and most of the people I knew smoked pot/ hash and the ones you have noted that would apply would be.......................well none. Now if I was to relate that to times through my life when I have drunk excessively.......I would apply 1...2.....and 6. Alcohol leaves pot for dead when it comes to those 6 points...............unarguable either ,

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    While I would agree with some of your opinion about alcohol being worse than cannabis, alcohol is not associated with paranoia, a dangerous mental state in many situations and is not known to trigger psychosis either temporary or permanently, so I would argue that cannabis is a far more dangerous drug. Particularly for those who have the predisposition to psychosis.

    The problem is that there is no current method to identify those who will suffer psychotic illness and in many cases, without the cannabis the person may have never triggered the mental illness.

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