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    No.

    But that does not stop people from selling the car with plates/rego and no RWC.

    In the old days it was not as clear as it is now and some of the advice above suggests that the poster may not have sold a car recently.

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    Privately, no you can't Pete.

    As others have said..it's pretty clear on their website. Sold with RWC or UNREGISTERED....no other option.

    But, but, but....I hear them say....if the form is filled in etc etc etc

    I even had someone in Vicroads tell me that it is ok, just keep the form and ring us in 2 weeks, if they haven't got a RWC then we just cancel their rego. She wouldn't give me that in writing.

    I sold my last Series 3 that way...no RWC and left the plates on....

    You can do it, but you leave yourself unprotected if they stack it....whilst drunk and unlicensed into a crowd of schoolchildren....


    (You can however sell a vehicle to an LMCT without RWC)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepy View Post
    Privately, no you can't Pete.

    I even had someone in Vicroads tell me that it is ok, just keep the form and ring us in 2 weeks, if they haven't got a RWC then we just cancel their rego. She wouldn't give me that in writing.

    I sold my last Series 3 that way...no RWC and left the plates on....
    you just confused the hell out of me

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    It's never been correct, it was a viable loop hole, transfer with no rwc, in a months time you get a letter asking for a rwc within 28 days and occasionally if you persisted and made lots of noise in there depot saying one was provided, you could get it through without one

    The rwc system has recently had a large shake up, so I'm not sure if this loop hole is still viable

    A reciept signed by both parties, with all details will still negate any responsibility on your behalf

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    It's never been correct, it was a viable loop hole, transfer with no rwc, in a months time you get a letter asking for a rwc within 28 days and occasionally if you persisted and made lots of noise in there depot saying one was provided, you could get it through without one

    The rwc system has recently had a large shake up, so I'm not sure if this loop hole is still viable

    A reciept signed by both parties, with all details will still negate any responsibility on your behalf

    Unfortunately this won't work any more. Thier computer system will automatically cancel the rego on a vehcile if the RWC is not recieved & processed by Vicroads within 28 days of the rego being transfered. I wouldn't trust them to open the mail properly and process the paperwork in a timely manner so I go in personnaly now when I transfer a rego - the RWC won't get lost that way or some other botch up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bacicat2000 View Post
    Unfortunately this won't work any more. Thier computer system will automatically cancel the rego on a vehcile if the RWC is not recieved & processed by Vicroads within 28 days of the rego being transfered. I wouldn't trust them to open the mail properly and process the paperwork in a timely manner so I go in personnaly now when I transfer a rego - the RWC won't get lost that way or some other botch up...
    Never had a rwc lost, just got 2 through without them

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    I tried once and ignored their letter, then I got another and thought I'd better do something about it - it was 3 months after I bought the car though - may be if I had stuck it out they would have forgot about it, but I'm to honest...

    The trick is a good one if you can get away with it, but with automated systems now, It wouldn't happen... Bring back the good old days.
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    Alien is dead right, as the question related to what is legal, rather than what is common practice. If a vehicle is sold (other than to a LMCT) without a RWC, the plates must be removed; i.e. the buyer removes the plates and presents them to Vicroads for a refund on any remaining rego. The practice of letting the buyer take the plates and get a RWC is very common but not strictly legal.
    A permit to drive the car without rego can be obtained allowing the car to be driven during daylight hours to or from a repairer and to a vicroads office for the rego check. A mate who is a police sergeant advised me last year that I did not even have to have a permit in order to drive to the vicroads office to get the car registered.

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    The practice of letting the buyer take the plates and get a RWC is very common but not strictly legal.
    Ok, so exactly what law is a person breaking for doing this?
    Im interested to know

    Surely Vicroads doesn't turn a blind eye to someone breaking a law.

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    Well I'm not a legal expert so please feel free to google vicroads and Victorian registration laws

    The options are 2
    sell it unregistered - process as per vicroads website
    sell it registered with a valid RWC - process as per above

    google is your friend

    it's all there for your edification

    if you "sell" it without a RWC and leave the plates on, you place yourself in a position where you may be liable for any fines, offences or liabilities the "buyer" incurrs

    Of course this would all be tested in court afterwards. I am sure the judge and prosecutor will tell you the regulation that you have breached - but they charge more than me

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