Thread: landrovers.... not what they used to be...

Hater gonna hate.

I wave to every Land Rover I pass no matter what the make in my puma 90. I was at emerald last weekend and had the pleasure of recovering a cruiser ute.

My first car was my fathers series II bla bla, we all have our stories. I just wanted a new Defender with some bells and whistles. Doesn't make me any less 'land rover'.

Yep somehow i dont think anyone will be restoring any landrover product made since the begining of the 90's in 50 years time. Too much electrickery and rust in the post 90's models. I dont think you can really call them land rovers anymore. The only difference between a modern landy and a toyota, nissan etc. is the badge. What made them different and stand out from the crowd is long gone.

Originally Posted by Drover

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Originally Posted by Mick-Kelly

Yep somehow i dont think anyone will be restoring any landrover product made since the begining of the 90's in 50 years time. Too much electrickery and rust in the post 90's models. I dont think you can really call them land rovers anymore. The only difference between a modern landy and a toyota, nissan etc. is the badge. What made them different and stand out from the crowd is long gone.

wif der fangle bits an bods

Yep i just cant see a group of blokes standing around and leaning on an old wreck of a 2012 puma in some farmers barn getting misty eyed and then having to sleep in the dog house because they trailered it home to restore and their wives found out. These days the vehicles get traded in when the ash trays full and a farmer wouldnt own one (or couldnt afford one) anyway. Times have changed and people have changed as well. The days of the true land rover are long gone.

I suspect that in the same way as people use gearbox and tc adapters to get around the lack of supply or just to improve on perceived weaknesses, the new age restorers will take to the problems of electric bits with Arduino in hand or other cheap controller to manage all the electric bits. The problem will be the extremely well engineered mechanical components which once worn make the engines throw away items. As the assembly process moves away from bolt on panels the bodies will be a bit harder to make look ok as welding in a patch will not be as easy with more curves and spot welded joints in panels.

All the things we like about land rovers of days gone by are the things that don't make them very attractive to the modern vehicle buyer, they want a bit of modern electronics to get lots of km/ltr, hp and lb.ft as well as quiet cabs good a/c etc.

Who decides what the “true land rover” is and that “true land rover” is gone.
Cars, 4x4’s and motorbikes earn a place in our heart and that place is because we grow up with them and have all sorts of fun mischief in them.
I have had LR continuously since the mid 90’s and my old man had various series models before that.
My Son, now 17 tells me that my PUMA is a “out of date POS from a hundred years ago”, but to him anything not made in Japan is not worth talking about and guess what he and all his mates get excited about early Jap rockets that they want to buy and restore.
If you can’t embrace new idea’s and improvements and are so captured in the past, maybe you should stop using this wang-fangle-electronic-computerised internet thingy and write to each other instead, like you had to do in days of the “true Land Rovers”

Originally Posted by Mick-Kelly

The days of the true land rover are long gone.

And they are gradually going from a small boutique manufacturer with a couple of model vehicles to a large mainstream manufacturer.
But i suppose they have to do this to survive,and along the way,the perception of 'the true LR'is lost.
The mainstream younger generation see LR as different to what we see it,so as us 'older generation',i suppose we could be called,move on,the way we see LR,which is the original LR will go as well.

This is just what happens,things change,die out.

I asked one of the apprentices at work the other day who Ayrton Senna was,he had no idea.And he is a motor racing fan.Had heard of him,but didn't know who he was.
There aren't to many motor racing fans of the older generation that wouldn't know who(Senna) was.

This is another example of how things move on,change,etc.