Job woes. How to cope with redundancy at 37.

It'sNotWorthComplaining! · 23rd May 2012, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by Ralph1Malph

I have to respectfully disagree with you on these two points. I am told that there was once rampart age discrimination against the ..aged

. I would counter that as most of the businesses I deal with, including myself, have a bent for mature age folk. Sure, I only use labour hire folk but shudder when they send me a young fella or girl. They simply don't stay and aren't reliable. I'll not beat around the bush here, mature age are more likely to be loyal, on time and less affected by sick dogs, lost children or excessive iPhone usage. The youngest I have atm is 37 and each is worth their weight in beer. I hired a public servant many years ago, young girl, about to marry and eventually with child (neither disclosed in interview). It may be illegal, immoral and nasty but the demographic for poor return on investment employees has shifted away from the aged and toward the young and child bearing.

Pfillery, you'll easily be with job if you are willing to try something new.

As for lining up wastefully at centrelink, phone and get an appointment. The time wasted in line could be spent job hunting

. Whilst I have never been in a centrelink, I am told that there can be some 'interesting' folk therein. Avoid it like plague.

Mate, You will be re-employed and generally in a better position. Chin up.

Ralph

Dead right mature people are worth their weight in gold.
A mature person will be loyal, sometimes loyalty unfortunatley means nothing, it gets stereotyped as a person with no ambition to move up the ladder.
Then there are the young ones that are disloyal they move from job to job chasing the $. Employers seem to favour them as they show ambition, striving to get ahead. Even though an employer wastes time training them only to be looking for a replacement as they left after a short time for the next best paying job.
Some employers don't see this, and their management is often doing the same.

**loanrangie** · 24th May 2012, 11:13 AM

With the lack of work ethics of most sub 30 yo's these days i reckon the mature worker should be sort after, dont dwell on it get out there and take on a new challenge .

**D110V8D** · 24th May 2012, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by rovercare

Ok I'll be blunt. It's not your employers responsibility to keep you employed to retirement, it's yours, sometimes business changes, that's how it goes

To many people don't have a nest egg for times such as these, I think thats risky and nieve

There is no shortage of work for those that desire it, increase your skill set, try something new and most of all don't dwell.

Truth.

It'sNotWorthComplaining! · 24th May 2012, 02:05 PM

And if you can't find anything, start up your own maintainence run, work for your self. All you need is a couple of customers to refer you and away you go. My wife was doing a bit of cleaning for a couple of neighbours that worked, before she knew it word of mouth got around and she ended up with more jobs she could handle. People still ask her if they can be put on a waiting list next free time comes around. Could have expanded and employed more people but then you are responsible for your workers jobs ensuring it is all done correctly.
you tend to work harder when working for yourself, but the satisfaction of not having to be told by anyone

**wrinklearthur** · 24th May 2012, 06:52 PM

I had the worlds worst boss and at the same time I had the worlds worst employee, as I worked for myself.

All was ok when I took on one customer at a time, they were happy and so was I at the end of these jobs.

The line of work I was in ( installing VSAT ) went down hill fast, when the firms I was working for set themselves up as labour hire agencies, using people like myself as subcontractors.
I lost the prime of my health, both physical and mental through the pressure trying to achieve the objectives set by kids on the phone.

Working for yourself is a satisfying employment, but beware of being a subcontractor.
.

**Blknight.aus** · 24th May 2012, 07:05 PM

remember to leave you contact details, your personal contact details on as many outgoing works and contacts as you can.

one of the places I was working for between my army time and this go round with the airforce that had "let me go" so they could use my pay to employ 2 people who were willing to work cheaper and would allow them to take on an appy for government bonuses called to ask if I would come back to work for them because I used to go and get into the dirty mucky jobs and left my name and personal contact card with the on site bosses when I was doing clean up.

It also helps if you make sure that the new bosses that are sacking you get to experience you running at 120% while you make it look like this is just an average day. When their new "But I want everything now and I dont want to work for it" workforce start pooching and they want to replace them you might just get a call.

**jakeslouw** · 24th May 2012, 07:08 PM

Last word maybe:

It looks rough now, but keep positive and keep your eyes open.

As many have said: THERE IS NO SHORTAGE OF WORK IN A DEVELOPED SOCIETY, as long as you are willing to get your hands dirty.

If you decide to go on your own:

Just remember some of the characteristics of a thriving business:

- a positive cash flow
- don't give credit
- stay away from perishables (veggies, meat, etc) unless you know what you're doing and have a market for your product
- stay away from items that are low on turnover: pots, tiles, toilet bowls, etc
- follow the rules, laws and bylaws applicable to the city, county, country
- word of mouth is king: there's nothing like a bad reputation to kill your business
- be fair honest and open with the customer especially with regards to mutual expectations
- pay your taxes
- remember to pay yourself
- do something preferably that you love

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**Basil135** · 25th May 2012, 02:12 PM

As has been said, it is a numbers game. Your employer is not making YOU redundant, but your position.

Personally, I have been on both ends, being made redundant when a company closed, and then, many years later, having to tell 50+ people they no longer had a job. This was due to a decision made way above my pay-grade, and I had no chance of changing their minds.

Trust me, it is not a nice feeling, having to tell someone that their position no longer exists.

These were people with anywhere between 1 & 25 years experience in what they were doing, and aged from their mid 20's thru to late 50's. The good news was, that everyone that looked for a job, got one in the end.

Without knowing the specifics of your package, just remember that you have at least a few weeks pay coming your way. Use this wisely. If all goes well, you will have a new job, and some extra money in the bank.

All the best.

**gromit** · 25th May 2012, 02:34 PM

I feel for you, I was retrenched at 48 some years ago, just a few days out from Christmas

You will feel bitter about it but you'll eventually get over it.
Take it as an opportunity, an opportunity to move on to something better.

I'm in industrial sales and was lucky enough to step into another job within a few weeks. I then changed jobs 3 years later and now work in opposition to the company that retrenched me. I thoroughly enjoy every sale I win from them....

Take any job you can then look for your ideal job, it's easy to get a job if you are already employed.

Best of luck

Colin

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