Thread: this would make me very nervous, record gun sales in US

Originally Posted by zedcars

I refer to something that happened quite recently.
The police should heed this judge’s wise words - Telegraph
Dennis
zedcars

Interesting story.

Each night since the burglary, the Ferries, fearing reprisals, stayed in different locations and have now emigrated to Australia. This is another depressing example of the way law-abiding people end up punished for doing nothing other than defending their homes from predatory crooks.

Reprisals from whom? Presumably relatives or associates of the criminals they injured. If they had fired off a warning shot or even just shouted "I have a loaded gun" they would have probably survived the burglary unscathed.

The first comment on the story says it better than I can:

actfordiablo
10/03/2012 01:21 PM

I hope that the police continue to view such matters with deep suspicion. The default position must be that it is probably criminal to shoot, stab or otherwise injure people. Regardless of how long the householders were kept in custody, they have been released and no further action is being taken. It is unfortunate that they had to go through the experience but it needs to be ascertained that things were as claimed.
There have been recent cases reported from the US where householders have shot people, suspecting that they are burglars, when in fact they are not. In the most recent case a man shot his own son. Is the Telegraph advocating that we move more towards the US system?
As soon as we do give householders carte blanche to shoot intruders then we will have 'business rivals' and other criminals setting up ambushes to remove the competition and husbands and wives saving the cost of a divorce.
By all means support assertive action against criminals but retain the risk factor of being tried for it if mistakes are made or created.

Originally Posted by 1976_michelle

I don't have strong views one way or the other on this; However I believe majority of people are not responsible enough or guaranteed to react correctly in situations in which the 'need' for the gun might arise resulting in death of the wrong person or the victim trying to protect themselves. On the other hand, rules such as these only keep responsible law abiding people from weapons, the crims still go ahead and get what they want anyway

I do agree with this that a lot of people are not fit but then again same can be said for lots of car drivers! And yes the crims dont really take a lot of notice of which law is which, if anything they will think it makes their B & E's a little less stressful! If they did observe the law they wouldnt be crims!!
I seem to have made a bit of a pigs brekky with my other reply. Apologies to Lotz of Landies for that (Note to self, do not post late at night!)

Hi everyone, I have been following this discussion with interest as I have had a bit to say to authorities over the last six months as I have tried to add a category to my weapons licence to try and better control the feral animals that are eating there way through a substantial investment in the way of recently planted improved pastures.

I believe that it is to hard for law abiding citizens to hold a firearms licence as there is no strengthening of laws regarding right to have/own a firearm that is going to stop criminals from operating outside the law.

If people are against firearms being used as a means of self defense for people defending their homes against criminal/unlawful activity do these same people believe that we should stand aside and let a foreign nation take over our country unopposed should a foreign nation ever threaten our shores?

Well, this was just a matter of time, enjoy.

Watch what happens when Guns are banned in Australia - YouTube

Take a nice long walk on Black Mountain Bob...

Originally Posted by bob10

Mate , straight to the point, in the Aussie way

Originally Posted by unseenone

Well, this was just a matter of time, enjoy.

Watch what happens when Guns are banned in Australia - YouTube

Take a nice long walk on Black Mountain Bob...

Originally Posted by bob10

Mate , straight to the point, in the Aussie way

Agh. This hadn't been posted in for 2 months. Why did it have to be dragged up now?

I can't see this thread staying very amicable...

As for that video, who produced it? Is it biased, what sources do they use for fact or is it national rifle association propaganda? Serious question as I believe at the start it had that it was made by someone known as nraia1 which I had a guess as national rifle association in Australia or similar.

If this thread is going to continue, I really hope people can debate it openly, with facts and evidence, playing the ball not the man and just keep it under control. Please?

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I was the original poster of this thread, and considering recent events, I would not complain if the Mods deleted it from the forum. Bob

fuzzy wuzzy was a bear

Originally Posted by Rusnut

fuzzy wuzzy was a bear

A poem with an interesting history, Bob

Not really. Fuzzy wuzzy was a Hadendoa warrior in Sudan.


Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear
Fuzzy Wuzzy had no hair
Fuzzy Wuzzy wasn't fuzzy, was he?

Few today are aware of the nineteenth-century Sudanese origins of this familiar nursery rhyme. The first line, "...was a bear" translates roughly as "The Hadendoa warriors gave us (British) a great deal of trouble." The second line is a pun based on the word 'bear'; if the Fuzzies are bears, where is all their fur? The third line doesn't have any historical background but the end "fuzzy, was he?" makes the same sound as "Fuzzy Wuzzy."