Thread: this would make me very nervous, record gun sales in US

come on now bob wouldnt you feel so much safer in the mall with countless armed body guards with all the training they patake in before entering the public domain. oh vitual reality computer games dont equate to fear and life do they.
even thirty years back i remember urban tales of our american cousins either beingturned back trying to bring guns into the frozen north of canada or complaining we didnt carry guns !
if the i have a gun mentality leads to a safer society what is next, personal nukes when you get really ****ed with neighbours ?

All it does is level the playing field. Crims have guns for one reason. Most of them are cowards. If they are faced with armed 'victims' they change their minds real quick about how easy a target you are.

Mutual Assured Destruction

the guns used by the crims are usually illegally gotten so what have they got to lose ?

Originally Posted by Land-Rover

Firearms aren't evil, it's the thugs who use them for crime are, I won't go calling a black Land-Rover evil simply because it was involved in a murder of human life.

The American's have got one thing sorted, it's called the Second Amendment, this protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.

Firearms are a form of self defense, making firearm laws stricter doesn't stop criminals, it stops the law abiding citizens from owning and purchasing firearms for their own self defense.
I wish the Australian firearm laws would be relaxed, giving more people the right to purchase and own a firearm for their own security and protection.

You can say think of the children, I'm certain I would rather have a locked door on my house which protects the life of the thug who kicks it in, not the family's or mine.

OMG, sarcasm really isn't your thing is it mate?

Maybe read my post again....

Originally Posted by Mick-Kelly

All it does is level the playing field. Crims have guns for one reason. Most of them are cowards. If they are faced with armed 'victims' they change their minds real quick about how easy a target you are.

How many times have you been held up by criminals?,like posted earlier giving guns out for self protection means arming paranoid gung ho fools and I would feel unsafe because of it. Pat

Originally Posted by PAT303

No one should have firearms for self protection,all it does is put firearms in the hands of gung ho fools. Pat

Including criminals?????

Originally Posted by PAT303

How many times have you been held up by criminals?,like posted earlier giving guns out for self protection means arming paranoid gung ho fools and I would feel unsafe because of it. Pat

Pat it might interest you to know that the US county with the least amount of crime is the one with compulsory gun ownership. Why would a crim risk being shot when they can go down the road and do what they want with impunity. More to the point how do we consider that we are free if we do not have control over our own actions and lives. When you hear that crash in the night and walk into your kitchen to see the knife wielding pill popper and his two mates going through your stuff. Do you want to have a broomstick in your hand or a shot gun? What do you think will be more effective at scaring them away? Or maybe you should wait an hour or two cowering in your room hoping the police will come before they decide to do more 'personal' harm.
The same argument works for the fools you mention. Picture yourself walking through downtown. Somebody has decided to go postal and start shooting random victims Martin Bryant style. If somebody was armed then they could have a chance of dealing with the threat and saving lives instead of adding to the tally.
Unfortunately the world you dream of does not exist anymore. Guns are readily available and the grubs have them. That clock cannot be turned back. That milk cannot be un spilt. There are only two effective outcomes. Universal disarmament or universal gun carriage. Anything else is unbalanced and will involve a mounting victim list.
The police cannot prevent gun violence, the military cannot secure our country. Management of your safety is a personal responsibility. And yes that DOES mean not putting yourself in situations that require such resolution wherever possible.
As to the amount of times i have been in violent situations where gun carriage is applicable - well those who know me personally from the forum will attest that i am somewhat unusual in that regard. Ask me in PM if you really want to know.

I lived in three major Australian cities for many years and never had any issue's ever,the Australia you live in is different to the one I live in. Pat