Thread: OMG Centrelink are slow

it was clearly a joke, i like australia to much not to come back. my main point about why i think it is stupid why they do not give student allowance to students overseas but still studying through an australian uni is that i am paying money to AUSTRALIA even if i got student and living away from home allowance it would not cover my costs. but i dont think people should be able to get living away from home allowance unless it is in aus but i do think people should be entitled to student allowance if like me will still be paying money to australia. really what difference is it to me no studying in australia by distance to being overseas studying by distance.i am not arguing about life choices. i acknowledge what choices i have made and what i have to make. so exclude life choices because that has nothing to do with the points i was making.

Originally Posted by schmierer LR at singleton

it was clearly a joke, i like australia to much not to come back. my main point about why i think it is stupid why they do not give student allowance to students overseas but still studying through an australian uni is that i am paying money to AUSTRALIA even if i got student and living away from home allowance it would not cover my costs. but i dont think people should be able to get living away from home allowance unless it is in aus but i do think people should be entitled to student allowance if like me will still be paying money to australia. really what difference is it to me no studying in australia by distance to being overseas studying by distance.i am not arguing about life choices. i acknowledge what choices i have made and what i have to make. so exclude life choices because that has nothing to do with the points i was making.

Life choices has everything to do with the topic at hand, this you fail to see

The bigger picture, lets run with your theory

They government gives you assistance to study whilst overseas, to cover living expenses

You spend "your?" money in another country

The Australian government then misses out on a few things

Income tax, to the people in aus from which you would rent a residence, groceries you would buy in aus, drinks, fuel etc

They also miss out on GST

So of those dollars the govenment return would be nothing, where as if you were to put "your?" money back into things of those nature in aus, the govenment would recieve income tax/GST on those things, which of there outlay, would return a percentage of that back to them, to put into the already mentioned "pool" of welfare funds to again give to you

Its the governments Profit/Loss on all investments, you would not be a wise investment, as you are also a liability to not come back, so why would they "invest" in you, whilst overseas?

You mention that you would be paying an australian institution....well, they are loaning that money to you and as you mentioned, you can never return to aus, never having to repay the governments investment, which of course, they don't lend you that money, expecting for you to just pay it back, they lend you that money, in the hope that you become a tax/GST paying citizen who then contributes back to the "pool"

Dude, I know I'm ripping you here, but your studying to be a teacher, hit the enter button every now and then! haha

Originally Posted by schmierer LR at singleton

it was clearly a joke, i like australia to much not to come back. my main point about why i think it is stupid why they do not give student allowance to students overseas but still studying through an australian uni is that i am paying money to AUSTRALIA even if i got student and living away from home allowance it would not cover my costs. but i dont think people should be able to get living away from home allowance unless it is in aus but i do think people should be entitled to student allowance if like me will still be paying money to australia. really what difference is it to me no studying in australia by distance to being overseas studying by distance.i am not arguing about life choices. i acknowledge what choices i have made and what i have to make. so exclude life choices because that has nothing to do with the points i was making.

Sorry mate but it has EVERYTHING to do with it!
You have said here that you are doing all this to be with your fiance who is from overseas, she would have to pay more to study here etc.
Life is not a free ride mate.... sorry.
I don't care if you have to take a HECS loan, don't care if you have to actually suspend your studies to save some money..... it's YOUR CHOICE!
This thread has opened up Pandora's box of those who should or should not be entitled to tax payer funded benefits and mate you are a world away from being deserving of MY money no matter which angle you come from.
Great you now have a job. Stick at it, save some money then fund yourself if you still want to study more. I say again, IT'S YOUR CHOICE.
btw I have 2 friends who have self funded themselves right through to Phd's, they worked bars, Macca's and waited tables to do it. They travelled too.... from their savings.... just like us 'normal' people.

both my step sisters get student allowance to help them with their studies plus living away from home allowance to help cover their living expenses. so if their student allowance is to cover study costs, such as books and student fees(not HECS), then why should someone overseas not get the student allowance as they are paying for the exact same things as a student at an australian university.

in reference to teachers(as that is what i am going to be). why shouldn't the government help those who are studying now to become teachers, who are later going to pay tax. i am sure there would be something at centrelink that would restrict you from getting payments or at least full payments if you have HECS

Originally Posted by schmierer LR at singleton

both my step sisters get student allowance to help them with their studies plus living away from home allowance to help cover their living expenses. so if their student allowance is to cover study costs, such as books and student fees(not HECS), then why should someone overseas not get the student allowance as they are paying for the exact same things as a student at an australian university.

Originally Posted by rovercare

Life choices has everything to do with the topic at hand, this you fail to see

The bigger picture, lets run with your theory

They government gives you assistance to study whilst overseas, to cover living expenses

You spend "your?" money in another country

The Australian government then misses out on a few things

Income tax, to the people in aus from which you would rent a residence, groceries you would buy in aus, drinks, fuel etc

They also miss out on GST

So of those dollars the govenment return would be nothing, where as if you were to put "your?" money back into things of those nature in aus, the govenment would recieve income tax/GST on those things, which of there outlay, would return a percentage of that back to them, to put into the already mentioned "pool" of welfare funds to again give to you

Its the governments Profit/Loss on all investments, you would not be a wise investment, as you are also a liability to not come back, so why would they "invest" in you, whilst overseas?

You mention that you would be paying an australian institution....well, they are loaning that money to you and as you mentioned, you can never return to aus, never having to repay the governments investment, which of course, they don't lend you that money, expecting for you to just pay it back, they lend you that money, in the hope that you become a tax/GST paying citizen who then contributes back to the "pool"

Dude, I know I'm ripping you here, but your studying to be a teacher, hit the enter button every now and then! haha

That is why.....

Its an investment decision, simple really, once you grasp the bigger picture, tell us why they Should?

as far as 'normal' people go i think well that statement is just stupid. heaps of students live of centrelink(study and living away from home allowance) and then work through the 3-4 months off at the end of the year.
i will actually be studying full time all year round and then working in the end of the year period. so why should i not be entitled to centrelink but others such as my stepsisters should be

i will be coming back to work in australia so they should support me as i will be a long time tax payer, but yes i know i cant actually prove that i am going to come back, but then if they dont support me why should i come back(just another way of thinking of it, but i am not actually thinking that).