OMG Centrelink are slow

if i got full student allowance while i was overseas it would only just cover my student costs ie books, exam and general student fees(not HECS).
i have to pay all my students fees to an Australian uni and i buy all my books from Australia, so would not my student allowance be getting put back into Australia and yes that would include paying gst.
yes people who get student allowance more often then not use it towards rent and food etc, but i would not so would that make me more deserving.
The country i am going to students do not have to pay uni fees at all and they get paid $420 a month regardless of their assets, and they can further getting a living away from home allowance and if they go overseas they still get their $420 a month.
oh and the reason i don't press enter is because i chat to much online( to the fiance via Skype) so i only press enter when i am done writing.
But yes i am slowly trying to train myself out of those habits

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Originally Posted by schmierer LR at singleton

... i have not had a decent debate for a while...

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I would have thought that with your girlfriend so far away you would be 'debating all the time :wasntme: :D

p.s. - if moving OS, why not complete your degree over there and save money???

p.p.s. lay off guys. Apprentices get paid to learn. At uni you have to pay to learn. I don't begrudge those who seek out the benefits available to them to ease the burden.

After a 4 year teaching degree The pay is ~50-60k. How much does the average plumber or sparky get once fully qualified (after earning whilst "studying")?

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nice call i like that one :BigThumb:

i did think about doing it over there. financially it would be better. unfortunately their degree is not recognized in Australia, in fact some of the states you have to retrain to teach there

i must admit it was hard to decide to do this course as yes you study full on and are normally fairly broke for 4 years. the rest of my family are in the mining industry and my dad would be earning twice as much as me and he left in yr 10. both my brothers will be earning at least 20k more then me. yes there is some benefits with teaching but it is not a 9-3 job i can assure you. it is mind blowing how much behind the scenes work there is.

Hey Schmeier, just came in on this thread - best of luck with everything.
I can empathise a bit with the foreign girlfriend and visa thing. My brother has tried for years to get residency and a visa for his girlfriend, then fiancee and now wife and mother of his two kids (do I need to clarify that they're all the same person???)

Studying and living overseas for a while is also great experience, and will make you a better teacher in the long run too. I left engineering a while ago to become a teacher and while I occasionally think about the money I'm missing, teaching is an absolute blast. You're right, its not 9-3, I work harder now for less money, but absolutely worth it for the satisfaction.

Good to see you're not letting some of the idiots on here get you down, as you'll certainly meet enough in the classroom :)

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Originally Posted by isuzurover

After a 4 year teaching degree The pay is ~50-60k. How much does the average plumber or sparky get once fully qualified (after earning whilst "studying")?

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Plus, don't they get an allowance from the government to stock their toolkit up?

And I don't know any graduate teacher anywhere in the country getting anywhere near $60k

what teacher are you Pinelli?
yes i chose to do teaching for the satisfaction, when i did it as work experience in year 10 it had made my mind up. I am doing primary however they have just brought in a new course that is k-12 which is a 4 year degree as well, so i hope i get that. I find it hard that people who do it would be as good teachers, at least at the start.
i think though that you learn just as much if not more through prac though, and i can always do further study once finished if i need to.
i was thinking about when i graduate teaching in international schools in the country i am going to but then the pay is a fair bit less then what it is here, so i will do it but maybe just not as long. i would ideally like to travel around afterwards and maybe teach in Africa for a year(that would be awesome).
but who knows what will happen in the next 4 years.
oh and btw there is a lot of talk all the time that they need more teachers but then they are saying that alot of us when we finish will not have jobs. oh and in my year in the course there is roughly 1 male to every 20-30 females and for those doing it externally(like me) it is about 1 male to every 40-50 females, and yes they are mostly mums who have kids at home i dont know how they find the time, but hats off to them

i think apprentices get around $1000 now for their tools, they have upped it in the last few years i know my eldest brother got nothing and my other brother only got some of it

If you want some impressions of teaching as a career, ask at Centrelink. The place is chock full of former teachers and nurses.