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    Further research has revealed the super soft 2cv suspension is interconnected front to rear. That is to say that when the rear suspension compresses due to weight transfer when climbing, the front suspension unloads! This unloading is quite evident in the first video.Unloading the front axle and engine would accentuate stalling the rear engine more than would be the case with non interconnection I'd think. Maybe great for charging across a ploughed field without breaking any of a basket full of eggs (the original design criteria) But hardly ideal for allround crosscountry operation I would have thought.
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    Travelled down the Sahara (algeria, niger etc) with some french people in a 2cv van, it went as well as our series 3 in the sand. Light weight was the key. I heard the got through Zaire and the mud as well but did not witness it but apparently it coped with the Zaire roads

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    My brother had a Dyane (upmarket 2CV) when he lived in Denmark. I travelled all over Europe with him in it. While we did not go offroad, we did encounter snow and ice. It was very impressive, comfortable (except for the noise level - comparable to a Cessna 150!), although performance was nothing to get excited about. But the fuel consumption was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wagoo View Post
    If you are referring to the twin front/rear engined Citroen Sahara, Not certain of the exact drivetrain layout, but unless they had a positive mechanical driveshaft connection between front and rear gearboxes, I think in serious 4wd conditions that they would suffer the same problems as did the prototype twin engined Mini Mokes during cross country tests.
    Two small independantly mounted engine/transmission units are not a good substitute for a single engine with a 2 speed transfercase on steep climbs, because the low powered rear engine which due to weight transfer will have to pull a lot of the vehicles weight will tend to stall, whilst the front engine will just uselessly spin the much more lightly laden front wheels.
    After test results proved unsatisfactory, BMC developed the single engine dual range Austin Ant using many Mini/1100 components, but the British armed forces purchased Land Rover lightweights instead
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    There was a twini Mini a fellow in the UK built and raced successfully. I've got a photo somewhere.
    There was a couple of guys that build a twini Moke in Adelaide. I saw it early in the build process. The engines hadn't been installed.
    They used two 1275cc motors. They took it on their first bush trip. They took it home. They dismantled it. I don't know why it wasn't a success but I would suspect with two 1275's it would be a little overpowered.

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    I think that the Australian Arm Forces made a mistake in going for the MB.
    The Citroen 2CV have better gun carry capacity.
    Plus have the option to be converted to a motorbike bike





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    There was a Pom with his French wife here not long ago who did the canning solo in their 2CV without a hitch.The bloke reconds we are a bunch of poofs the way we carry on about outback Oz,he got sick and tired of ''hardcore'' Australian offroaders telling him he wouldn't make it even though he drove the thing here from the UK. Pat

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