Thread: Super Hornets and Diesel Subs...

The problems with the Collins class Subs have all been overcome, haven't they!!

The biggest problems are crewing and maintenance as far as diesel subs go they are the biggest in the world and one of the best dont believe what the media write The hornets will never be able to do the same job as the F111, just different aircraft built for different things with the cruise missiles we are buying do we need the long range strke capacity that they had? But they were awesome werent they, great on a fire power demo

Originally Posted by THE BOOGER

The biggest problems are crewing and maintenance as far as diesel subs go they are the biggest in the world and one of the best dont believe what the media write The hornets will never be able to do the same job as the F111, just different aircraft built for different things with the cruise missiles we are buying do we need the long range strke capacity that they had? But they were awesome werent they, great on a fire power demo

Collins is a good sub when it works. It never works.

Super Hornet is overmatched by many of our adversaries.

Since the super hornets are supposed to be a stopgap untill the f35 arrives the big question is will the f35 live up to expectations

Originally Posted by THE BOOGER

Since the super hornets are supposed to be a stopgap untill the f35 arrives the big question is will the f35 live up to expectations

Not supposed to be arriving till ~2020 now. By then expectations will have moved on, I expect .

Originally Posted by THE BOOGER

The hornets will never be able to do the same job as the F111, just different aircraft built for different things with the cruise missiles we are buying do we need the long range strke capacity that they had?

not really. the f111 fits a niche that the aust govt/defence force no longer feels is necessary to maintain.

Originally Posted by akelly

Collins is a good sub when it works. It never works.

Super Hornet is overmatched by many of our adversaries.

Get your facts right, please, Bob



Defence


Collins sub HMAS Farncomb on target against Americans in exercises

• by: BRENDAN NICHOLSON, Defence editor
• From: The Australian
• July 25, 2012 12:00AM

THE Australian submarine HMAS Farncomb has torpedoed and sunk a decommissioned American naval ship during an exercise off Hawaii.

And the much-maligned Collins-class submarine has proved more than the equal of nuclear-powered US "hunter-killer" submarines in the so-called RIMPAC military exercises.
The commander of Australia's contingent, Commodore Stuart Mayer, told The Australian the Farncomb also performed very well against US Los Angelese-class boats submerged off Hawaii.
"She's winning a lot more than she's losing," Commodore Mayer said.
He said the commanders of the nuclear-powered LA-class submarines were very keen to test their skills against Australia's Collins-class conventional submarine which was very quiet and agile and which could operate in shallower water than bigger US boats.


Commodore Mayer said the Farncomb had won those contests regularly. "She's doing extremely well," he said.
Commodore Mayer said the Australian submarine had been developed to the point where it had a state-of-the-art combat system and weapons installed with US help.
"It's surprised a lot of people and it's really pushed the Americans in particular very hard.
"They keep asking to work with her because they want to push themselves. She's a great competitor.
"And they can do things a nuclear boat can't do."
Commodore Mayer said submariners were highly competitive and worked hard against each other.
Twenty-two nations are involved in the air, sea and land exercise.
When the Farncomb turned its attention to a surface target, its torpedo hit the retired supply ship USNS Kilauea just below its bridge.
The vessel was broken in half by the blast and sank in 40 minutes.
The submarine's commanding officer, Commander Glen Miles, said the sinking was a significant milestone for himself and his 60-strong crew.
"Those of us who drive these boats know that the Collins's weapons systems are among the most capable in the world," Commander Miles said.
The Farncomb travelled 7000 nautical miles to get to RIMPAC, the world's largest international maritime exercise

Originally Posted by akelly

...good thing we have a decent Army, eh?

Cheers,

Adam

After experiencing your form in the recently banned site, I won't rise to the bait, [ much], Mr Kelly, and I will just mention in passing the Tiger & NH 90 Army helo's. I'm sure you are not suggesting the personel from both arms of the service are not up to the task, are you? Bob