Oh what a feeling

**PAT303** · 2nd January 2013, 10:16 PM

I dropped the Tdi and cub down to get loaded onto a float for there trip to Kalgoorlie and there was a 200 series also getting loaded to go to Perth,the owner was there and said it's going because the throttle stuck wide open.What happened in the owners words was he pulled out onto Kalgan drive Newman and headed up to Newman road,he gave it a bit of throttle and it went wide open,he said he could not even with both feet on the brake stop and because of the keyless start could not turn the engine off.The bloke said everything slowed down and he had time to look right at a large drainage ditch on his right as was going to crash it into it to stop but as quick as it happened the engine dropped back to idle and he regained control.Toyota said it doesn't happen so he has paid his own money to drop it at Perth to have it looked at,having just spent 1.6billion dollars settling their American adventure this is going to make them happy. Pat

**bob10** · 2nd January 2013, 10:19 PM

Dare I say it, the Empire strikes back, Bob

**CraigE** · 2nd January 2013, 10:22 PM

Why are you floating them to Kal?

Ean Austral · 2nd January 2013, 10:23 PM

Poor bugger, that sounds like a very scary ride. proberly lucky for him he never smashed into the ditch as they would never have believed him with the damage that would have done.

Sounds like they dont believe him anyway, bet its not made public if there is a fault.

Cheers Ean

**p38arover** · 2nd January 2013, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by PAT303

because of the keyless start could not turn the engine off.

I had a keyless start Hyundai ix35 rental in Uluru. I could turn the engine off. I don't remember how but I didn't leave it running when I left it. Did I press the Start button?

**PAT303** · 3rd January 2013, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by CraigE

Why are you floating them to Kal?

We are moving back there. Pat

**nugge t** · 3rd January 2013, 06:56 AM

I had a Rangie which kept going in reverse after the brake was applied. Twice it happened to my wife in our driveway and she was lucky not to go over a 1.5 M embankment and once it happened to me as I backed out of a driveway onto a busy road. Put my foot on the brake which went flat to the floor and I just kept rolling out into the middle of the road. No fluid loss, no evidence of it having happened other than 2 badly shaken drivers.

LR advised me that it didn't happen as well, each time. Guess it can happen to all brands.

**Scouse** · 3rd January 2013, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by nugge t

I had a Rangie which kept going in reverse after the brake was applied. Twice it happened to my wife in our driveway and she was lucky not to go over a 1.5 M embankment and once it happened to me as I backed out of a driveway onto a busy road. Put my foot on the brake which went flat to the floor and I just kept rolling out into the middle of the road. No fluid loss, no evidence of it having happened other than 2 badly shaken drivers.

LR advised me that it didn't happen as well, each time. Guess it can happen to all brands.

With ABS? If so, it's a weak accumulator. It gives brake pressure from a cold start until the ABS pump builds up pressure.

**p38arover** · 3rd January 2013, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Scouse

With ABS? If so, it's a weak accumulator. It gives brake pressure from a cold start until the ABS pump builds up pressure.

It sure does! The P38A can be near impossible to stop. Been there.

**nugge t** · 3rd January 2013, 08:49 AM

Was a 2003 so it had..

The chassis also featured not only the Electronic Traction Control first pioneered in the 1993 Range Rover, but also Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) and the Land Rover–pioneered Hill Descent Control (HDC). Emergency Brake Assist (EBA) and Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD) supplement the standard anti-lock brakes (ABS).

Land Rover were adamant that nothing was wrong. At 50,000kms the front diff sounded like an EH Holden that had done 500,000kms but that was apparently uneven tyre wear.

LR and I parted company for some years but I can not speak highly enough of the level of service from teh dealer I have had since getting the Defender.

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