Thread: Speed camera regs

Originally Posted by BigBlueOne

People could just follow the road rules and not speed and they wouldn't have any problems. The speed limit is set for a reason. Cops and speed cameras should be hidden to catch the people who speed. People whinge about getting fined when they have broken the rules. It's simple really.

Who's to say the speed limit has been set correctly? Many areas are set incorrectly. How artificially low would a speed limit have to be set before you decided it was inappropriate and ignored it? 20km/h? 40km/h? A road isn't unsafe to drive at 80 just because the big sign says the limit is 60, just as some roads posted at 80 are unsafe at 60 in some sections.

Unfortunately the big 'speed kills' campaign has taught Australian motorists to stick to the posted limit, not to judge the situation for what it's worth. A tight corner taken at the speed limit in the wet could, and has, put many an inattentive down a cliff in these parts. Treat people like idiots for long enough, many will become idiots.

But we all know the real way to reduce the road toll to zero is to crush any cars that have a loud exhaust.

ScottW, i agree with your post.

A little story regarding signed speed limits on roads. When i was 17 i was in a Hilux with 3 friends on a road that had a signed 70 km/h speed limit. We were heading out into the local bush area to go four wheel driving and came across a tight bend which did not have a sign to say slow down. The driver took the corner at 70km/h and we rolled the Hilux 3 times causing all 4 tyres to come of the rims. The Hilux was a right off. I broke my arm in two spots and my best mate broke his neck, nose and cracked his skull and was in a come for two weeks. After the accident a 25km/h sign post was place before the corner.

Originally Posted by BigBlueOne

I hope no one has taken my opinions wrongly, it is merely just my opinion on the topic. A couple more things which you may not be aware of is that camera operators (multinovas) are not Police, they are civilians. If you are pulled over by a Police vehicle and it is a sedan, it will be a traffic Police vehicle. When you ask them 'why arn't they catching criminals?' they will get angry because to them anyone on the road breaking the rules is a criminal. Good topic thought as it creates a good discussion.

Actually, I think you might find breaking a road rule is not a criminal act. I think it comes under the banner of civil compliance or some other term.
I'm sure someone will correct me.
Murdering someone is. Stealing someone's property is.
So, I don't think they are catching criminals.

As I mentioned in my second post there is a round a bout not long after the position that the speed camera was in. So I`m guessing most people would not be speeding and in fact most would be starting the proccess of slowing up for the round a bout. This has nothing to do with speed or safety enforcement. This just catching those that could inadvertantly run over the speed limit by a samll margin as the come down the hill. As for a high acident area pfft . Was in the sun today a comment wich I thought was good. If they where more serious about safety they shoud halve the fines and double the loss of demerit points. Taking money of speeding drivers does not stop them speeding it only makes them poorer. Taking there licence away sooner and you will stop them sooner.
Cheers Hall

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Actually, I think you might find breaking a road rule is not a criminal act. I think it comes under the banner of civil compliance or some other term.
I'm sure someone will correct me.
Murdering someone is. Stealing someone's property is.
So, I don't think they are catching criminals.

Mick

I think you are wrong, it is a crime but usually only a misdemeanor, like littering and jaywalking. Significantly excessive and drink driving are felonies to use US jargon.

It all comes down to: if you can't do the time (or pay the fine) don't do the crime.

I know the vast majority here are of a similar opinion, including yourself.

Diana

With all due respect (?) to those who vociferously focus on "SPEED" as being the cause of crashes... perhaps they might think about the underlying Lack of Consideration that permeates the 'other' causes, such as ignorance of the rules, stupidity, arrogance, ego, internal and external Distractions etc etc...

It is possible to have a crash without 'Speed being Involved'.

Targetting "Speeeed" is like a lazy Doctor medicating for the obvious disease-symptom. But the treatment' does nothing for the underlying disorder driving it.. Indeed it may even cause it !.
Not the smartest approach but a nice easy one...

Guess what? - The Doctor and Drug Industry are not going to modify their behaviour, - the patient is going to have to wise-up and change his Doctor if he wants good health...

When I started driving at 9 years old... 'Good Driving Manners' was drummed into me.... observing speed limits etc was only to keep out of the Copper's sight, and make it easier for all to rectify a bad decision.

Has worked for me.

The argument about speed is that everything happens that much faster or is exponentially more serious at speed.

When you have undivided roads, even straight ones, every increase in speed is doubled for the impact speed in a head on collision. A head on at 80KPH (160KPH impact speed) may be barely survivable in the right car with the correct safety systems and a bit of luck, but the same stretch of road at 100KPH makes an unsurvivable 200KPH head on impact speed.

Fatigue, weather conditions or poor lighting can easily overcome good manners and an excellent driver travelling at any speed when the unexpected happens.

The sad thing is those that are most likely to speed are often the inexperienced who don't recognise their own driving limitations. Young adult crash statistics bear that out year after year.

Originally Posted by seano87

Yes. The reason a lot of the time would be to facilitate revenue raising.

You have a point - don't speed, won't get caught. But seriously, in hiding?

I'd rather see way more patrol cars DRIVING around so they create a presence, rather than effectively entrapping people in areas where there is no justification of them being.

If they catch you doing the wrong thing somewhere, does that not mean they are justified in being there. My 2c