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    Not enough Outback dunnies?

    What do you reckon? Should there be lots more outback dunnies? How would maintenance be paid for? Do dunnies at rest stops take money away from nearby towns? So many questions...

    From the ABC News website today:

    Outback pit stops hardly flush with dunnies

    By Eloise Fuss
    Updated 2 hours 4 minutes ago
    Photo: Sometimes an outback toilet might present unusual risks (Judy Dupont: Audience submitted)

    Map: SA

    White streamers dangling off trees at some outback rest stops have left travellers unimpressed by such crappy decorations.
    As tourists in their caravans head inland and into northern Australia after the heat of summer, a lack of amenities at rest areas prompts criticism.
    The problem equally riles some who head south.
    "As soon as you cross the border from the Northern Territory into South Australia the availability of toilets doesn't just diminish, it vanishes," said Michael, a Northern Territory traveller.
    "As a result, every rest area on the Stuart Highway is littered with toilet paper and other debris, which is not nice.
    "Let's face it, when people have got to go, they have to go."
    South Australia's director of planning, transport and infrastructure Paul Gelston rejected suggestions there were too few toilets at rest areas.
    He said since 2007 in SA there had been 39 new toilets and 37 toilet upgrades for rest areas on major arterial roads, including Dukes Highway, Port Augusta Road, Port Wakefield Road, the Stuart Highway and the South Eastern Freeway.
    But he conceded the cost of building and maintaining facilities, the cost of water and fixing vandalism were challenges.
    Photo: Eye-catching old toilet pans displayed between Bute and Port Broughton are not much use to anyone caught short (ABC: Ann Jones)

    Mr Gelston said simply cleaning the toilets had a significant cost.
    One at remote Bon Bon has an annual cleaning bill of more than $17,000 and another public loo at Ranges View cost $11,000 annually.
    He said a lack of toilets at some roadside rest stops was also part of a deliberate strategy to encourage travellers to stop in the regional towns.
    "We'd always like to put more facilities and more rest stops to encourage people to stop and drive safely, but we have to balance that too with not taking trade away from local towns, local shops and local facilities," he said.
    Mr Gelston said funding for toilets had to be balanced against other priorities such as road maintenance works and building new roads.
    "Remember that in South Australia we've got a long way between many of our towns. We are not fortunate perhaps to have as many towns located as there might be in Queensland and elsewhere," he said.
    Ceduna resident Barbara said people visiting remote areas needed to use their common sense and bury their waste at loo-less stops.
    "Everybody has to take some responsibility for the mess at rest stops, take a garden trowel and cover it up. A lot of people complain but they should just do something," she said.
    Mr Gelston denied there was any health hazard and urged travellers do their bit to protect the toilets which were on offer.
    "That's the point really, asking everyone to treat the facilities that are out there with respect. We'd save so much money if we didn't have to worry about vandalism, for example," he said.
    My opinion is that all roadside rest stops should have toilets, preferably composting to reduce water usage and maintenance, and the maintenance should be part of the overall road maintenance budget.

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    Probably most of the people who complain have a toilet in their caravan and just don't want to use it and have to clean it out.
    Anyway if your going for a wee. Even for girls it's easy to squat and take a leak. You can even carry a little plastic bag to hold your wee wipe until you get to a bin. And unless you have an illness like gastro then it's fair to say you can hold on to take a dump. Even then it's not all that difficult to do your business into a plastic bag and keep it until you get to a bin.

    Just lazy people

    The outback and remoteness is exactly that.
    Next people will complain that there is no fuel stops, corner store, take away.
    so what's the point in going to remote places.You might as well go tow your caravan to the nearest McDonald's car park and camp out there for a couple of weeks.

    obviously this get's up my goat.

    Rant over
    Last edited by Sparksdisco; 26th April 2013 at 12:02 PM. Reason: had to get the stuff out of my goat

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    Too true Sparks, I just do like the oldies used to , dig a hole and bury it, deep enough to discourage critters from investigating and all is well.

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    Trouble is Davie, most dont bury it deep enough or burn the paper or bury it at all.
    Nothing worse than pulling into a great remote camping spot to see dug up turds and streamers of crap stained toilet paper. I beleive that if you go to a camping area (without toilets) you should take a toilet (porta-potti) with you, before NPWS make it compulsory, Regards Frank.

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    Simple as , Dig a hole , chuck a dump in , throw in a bit lime and fill in , jobs done ,easy peasy . Nothing worse than to pull up at a rest stop and the whole place is littered with streamers and stinks to high heaven of c**p , why people wait untill they get to a rest stop to do this beats me .

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    Probably a good chance for the scrubyites to demand a doubling of rego cost of 4wds ?


    Seriously, I noticed on our recent trip across that the backpacker & nomad frequented parts of the Eyre Hwy (obvious camps, roadside stops & lookouts) are fairly atrocious, but drive another say, 3-4km from the highway - and suddenly it is not too bad at all.

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    I think there should be more coffee stops, at least every 2hours. They must serve above excellent grade coffee


    on a more serious note....totally agree - c**p should be buried good and deep. Horrible to encounter someone else's.

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    We are probably better off with more toilets.

    I like to think that I do the right thing and can manage quite well when there are no facilities, but there are obviously some people who don't.

    When I camped at Bell's Gorge on the Gibb River Road and at the Bungle Bungles, I don't believe that my bush camping experience was in any way diminished by the fact that there was a dual flush toilet within easy walking distance from our quite private camp.

    I think I would prefer to stumble across a toilet if I strayed from my camp rather than stumble across the evidence that some people have no consideration for those who might camp there in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post
    We are probably better off with more toilets.

    I like to think that I do the right thing and can manage quite well when there are no facilities, but there are obviously some people who don't.

    When I camped at Bell's Gorge on the Gibb River Road and at the Bungle Bungles, I don't believe that my bush camping experience was in any way diminished by the fact that there was a dual flush toilet within easy walking distance from our quite private camp.

    I think I would prefer to stumble across a toilet if I strayed from my camp rather than stumble across the evidence that some people have no consideration for those who might camp there in the future.
    Well said, totally agree, Regards Frank.

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