Reading Writing Hotline

**V8Ian** · 10th June 2013, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by dullbird

I am one of those people.

I have bad spelling and grammar. My punctuation has a lot to be desired also, as I'm sure many of you have witnessed in my trip reports and in general posting.

I'm not proud of it. I purchased a grammar book to try and help me understand but I still make many mistakes. I would not consider myself lazy, (although I can be a little lazy sometimes with capitalisation) I would consider myself to be lacking in understanding. I still to this day get my "i" and my "e" the wrong way round even if I consciously think about, I will often spell receipt as reciept. I also can't remember what words must not be used to start a sentence.

I will often read back through something I have written and change the spelling of a word because, when I type, the wrong one seems to comes out automatically. For example there and their.

I want to be better but I find it very very hard, I don't know why I find it hard but I do. As an adult I'm embarrassed by it.
I have learnt a few things by having Ron correct words in my posts which is good, however there came a point where it was getting pointed out so often that I was losing my confidence to write anything at all, and coming here to join in the community was not a pleasant experience.

There is a fine line between helping someone and making someone feel really really stupid in front of a wide audience, which is belittling.

This is by no means a dig at Ron as he hasn't done it to me in a long time (although he will probably pick at this now)and he has actually helped me, but I guess I just want to point out that when some of you get on your soap box about things like this it does make some of us feel really bad, and I don't think we should be described as lazy and drop outs etc, just because what comes easy to you (perhaps because you had better schooling) does not necessarily come easy to some of us.

Lou there may be errors in your post but I didn't notice any because it was punctuated and easy to read and understand.

on the otherhand if one waffles on and on with no puntuacio adn ppor speling by the way hows yuore horses things are different are your fences all good are you happy with the zero turn mower is this hard to follow cause its damn hatd to type

I have more trouble spelling on a keyboard than with handwriting, does anyone else find that?

**dullbird** · 10th June 2013, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Lou there may be errors in your post but I didn't notice any because it was punctuated and easy to read and understand.

on the otherhand if one waffles on and on with no puntuacio adn ppor speling by the way hows yuore horses things are different are your fences all good are you happy with the zero turn mower is this hard to follow cause its damn hatd to type

I have more trouble spelling on a keyboard than with handwriting, does anyone else find that?

Yeah but it took me an hour and a half to write it

**vnx205** · 10th June 2013, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by dullbird

Yeah but it took me an hour and a half to write it

Maybe so, but at least it didn't take an hour and a half for people to read it and work out what you were trying to say.

**V8Ian** · 10th June 2013, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by dullbird

Yeah but it took me an hour and a half to write it

I feel your pain.

**manic** · 10th June 2013, 07:36 PM

This is a land rover forum....
important = effective communication
not important = how you do it

**dullbird** · 10th June 2013, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by V8Ian

I feel your pain.

It actually took me ten minutes by the time I went over and over and over it before hitting submit.

However I'm sure it is still riddled with errors.

The thread wasn't started about endless sentences though, it was about spelling, grammar and the miss use of words. All of which I do.

**V8Ian** · 10th June 2013, 07:49 PM

It's the endless sentances that make me go to another post.

sheerluck · 10th June 2013, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Sparksdisco

I find that very offensive and insulting.

You would be very surprised if you looked into who can not express themselves in written form very well.

My personal view is people who look down on others because they are not as good as you have a lot more to hide than spelling mistakes.

Sparks, you have misinterpreted what I have written, and if you have inferred that I look down on people who cannot spell then I apologise as this is not the reality.

Outside of work, people's ability to spell (or not) has no bearing on what I think of them. I will judge them on them being them, and not any one individual part. I don't care if someone has been to Uni, what school they went to, what qualifications they have.

However, in my professional life, it is a different matter. The area and industry that I work in has a need to be extraordinarily precise. Accuracy and literacy are an absolutely necessary.

Presentations and documentation must be prepared with absolute precision, errant punctuation or spelling could lead to compromised 'patient safety' as it is euphemistically described.

So would I discard a job application that is full of spelling or grammatical errors? Probably. Not definitely, but they would very much be at a disadvantage.

sheerluck · 10th June 2013, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Disco Muppet

U wot m8? Fite me IRL 1v1 i smash yoo.*

I'm guilty of a few grammatical slip ups, mainly Americanising words due to the predictive text on my iPod.

*Translation
Dear Sir. I take great umbrage at your statement. I wish to engage in fisticuffs with you immediately. I do declare that I am a superior fighter and pre-emptively declare myself the winner.

Yes, I'm a dinosaur. I'd have taken one look at your first line and ignored it.

However, I'm quite happy to take the **** when I see you slip up

**p38arover** · 10th June 2013, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Sparksdisco

The trouble with writing with a pen or pencil is because i'm left handed and push to hard and i smudge everything.

99% of the time I know i am spelling the word incorrectly but do not know how to spell it correctly. This annoys the crap out of my wife as I am forever asking her how to spell something.

You can buy left-handed pens. I'm right-handed but found I could write left-handed with a LH Pen. I tried one at Lefty's in San Fran.

Left Handed Writing Tools

Also, you can buy a dictionary for bad spellers. The problem with a conventional dictionary is you need to have a good idea how to spell the word.

An on-line version is here: Aspell Spell Helper

If you use Internet Explorer, install ieSpell.

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