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    Angry Euthanasia an option for me

    I know that is a topic were the do-gooders have expressed very strongly their opinion but IMO the right to not loose our dignity and in many cases pain is above religion beliefs or country laws.
    For those among us that have discarded the option perhaps watching the
    Lateline's Crisis in Aged Care investigation will help them to re-access their views.
    I know that for many this is nothing new and we try to put the issue in one side of our priority list but whatching the video I just wonder if there are not serious cases of manslaughter by the management of the institution and by those that to protect their job keep doing this "torture" to old people
    My wife and sons have instructions about my wishes if my health come to a situation were I need health care and I would be unable to defend myself and one of them is not to depend on them and not to finish on this human torture institutions.

    Quote from the link:
    Many staff also complain that doctors can be hard to find, with Ms Dickens remembering how one woman was left to die convulsing and asphyxiating on her own vomit for hours.

    "It's quite traumatic, somebody choking on their own vomit, unable to take a breath," Ms Dickens said.

    Ms Dickens intervened, trying to contact the woman's doctor, who did not respond. She tried the locum, who refused to come, and later the hospital, which refused admittance.

    She finally called an ambulance, which meant the dying woman received some oxygen, which the nursing home had run out of.

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    im all in favor of euthanasia

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    My father had emphysthema and lung cancer and was in a nursing home on oxygen.
    The first time he collapsed all stops were pulled out, he was flown to Sydney by air ambulance and spent a month in hospital, before coming back.
    He and I had a chat one day. "Next time, don't bother," he said.
    So we got his doctor in and planned a response program of painkillers and other non-invasive treatment, while he would stay in the nursing home. If he recovered, great - if he didn't, at least he went without pain. Everyone was happy.
    And that's what happened a few months later.
    I'm a Christian, but its not an issue for me. There's a big difference between active euthenasia - doing things to take a life - and passive euthenasia - not taking extreme actions which are unlikely to succeed or improve the patient's quality of life.
    So, I recommend you have a long talk with your doctor and those close to you and make a plan of appropriate responses to various likely scenarios. It makes it easier for all concerned.
    Just my thoughts, feel free to disagree...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    im all in favor of euthanasia
    including your good self or just others?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    im all in favor of euthanasia

    Me too, including self administered when a condition becomes extreme and terminal and a person is unable to care for themselves and the quality of life is pain and suffering.
    Take me for example, I am a solitary and independant person. I could not stand to be locked up in a care facility.
    My wife and kids have passed away and the last of my friends died in 2011.
    I live alone now and dont socialise and never get bored or lonely. I enjoy my days despite niggling health problems but if that were to change and I couldn't look after myself I would druther clean out my desk and move on.
    I am of the firm belief that when my time comes I shall be reunited with my loved ones. At the end of the day that is something to look forward to and a better option rather than a time of suffering and mental anguish.
    As mentioned before I have signed an Advace Health Directive, not to be treated but made comfortable.
    I sometimes think that to finally come to rest on the surface out in the desert ( which I love ) in the company of Gibson, Ludwig and all of those other boys would be a fitting farewell. To be absorbed by Nature and its creatures in a never ending cycle appeals to me. I have always had a passion to visit and discover lonely bush gravesites. I always spend some time having a conversation with them. I would not like to be buried tho, just left as I lay.
    But do I want the here and now to end ?
    No way.

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    PS: to the above.
    Some of you may recall that 3 year ago my wife and I made a decision regarding her options following a long illness and at the end, 2 months in hospital where she was unable to do anything for herself. I had already been her carer for more than 10 years. No regrets I would do it all again.
    I passed on her wish that she be taken off all medication and be given large morphine injection.
    She died 2 days later peacefully.
    I know what it takes to decide these things and it is not easy.
    She is at peace without pain but not alone, I talk to her everyday. The last thing she said was I'll see you later. I look forward to it.
    I hope to have the option of making a decision for myself when the time comes.

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    Euthinasia, nah most of them are at the Uni of NSW.

    Do we all remember the movie "Logan's Run", where euthanasia has become mandatory. The slippery slope slarts coming when one's choice starts to become pressure from family and then state not to bear the costs and burdens of the aged.

    Nothing to do with religion.

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    I'm sure that one of my cars will find a way to kill me - I think they've been trying for years - but failing that, I'd like to have some sort of a plan should need be. A doctor friend reckons that by far most people die in their sleep, but it's still a bit of a lottery and I'll bet that having a plan in place will become more and more common.
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    A friend if the family is suffering dementia. Her daughter is living with her and looking after her.
    In some cultures, the elderly are looked after by their children. Why do we bundle them off into nursing homes? I can understand why if they become too difficult to manage.
    My grandfather died in his bed peacefully at night. He was 92. When my grandmother died my auntie and her husband moved in to look after my grandfather for his remaining years.
    Nursing homes should be a last resort.

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    i have worked in enough nursing homes and dimentia wards to know that if I have any part in the decision I will be voluntarily euthanaising myself before it gets to that point.

    As a recipient of a donor organ, of course I am on the organ donor registry, the only conflict I have is if I let a crocodile take me, (prior to dementia) there will not be much left in the way of good organs.

    Some may say I'm already demented.

    yes, I vote for euthanasia, someone please remind me which party has written that into their policy again and I'll vote for them !!

    what about Soylent Green ???

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