There is not need to go hungry

Well, I agree that its great to encourage people to grow some of their own vegies. We have been increasing the vegies we grow for several years now. Its trial and error, but its both satisfying and saves some money, although that's not our main purpose. Its great to be able to go out into the garden and harvest something to include with dinner.
We also avoid supermarket vegies and shop in local markets because the food seems to last longer.
I suggest people just focus on a few vegies they eat a lot of or that are easy to grow, and add bought vegies to it.
There was a time when most Aussie houses had backyard vegie gardens. Actually, you don't need a yard, as many vegies can be grown in pots or other ways. For example, we have a hanging bag of strawberries.
Put in a rainwater tank and you're away.
Its also a good way of encouraging children to get their hands dirty and learn something useful for their later lives.

Thank you Mick, at last someone "is in the same page" that I am.
The educational benefit for the kids is awesome you can see the difference between kids tat look after a veggie patch at home and at the school and those that do not get near the garden.
Alsowe have to mention that if we add about 6 hens they will recycle the waste and give the family an average of 4 eggs a day plus help with the improvement of the soil.
It is a win win if you ask me compared to a yard just covered with lawn.
I agree with you if there is not enough land there are ways to have a fresh home grown salad.:)

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I guess that if it is possible to have roof gardens in New York it is possible to do it in Sydney.
When is a will is a way ;)

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Originally Posted by Chucaro

Thank you Mick, at last someone "is in the same page" that I am.

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why don't you read other people's posts Chucaro? Others all along have said fresh veges are a good suppliment, I even suggested you show hydroponic setups, but once again you choose to feign dissaproval and your own superiority of thinking, if anyone challenges your overly-broad and sweeping statements.

Chucky it must be hard to carry your burdens
If I look out my window I see red rocks Spinifex and Kangaroos sadly the green flowing hills of Tasmania are miniscule part of the Australian environment.
I could eat the Kangaroos but some bleeding heart will tell me I cant because they are endangered, anyway I cant own a gun so I would have to chase them with sticks.
My 50 Square Metres will result in not much food because its mainly rock and sand.
If you look at a map of Australia its mainly desert that said if it were possible I would eat off the land

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

why don't you read other people's posts Chucaro? Others all along have said fresh veges are a good suppliment, I even suggested you show hydroponic setups, but once again you choose to feign dissaproval and your own superiority of thinking, if anyone challenges your overly-broad and sweeping statements.

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Yes I read them, your first one was about that it is better for earning the money in a job and purchasing the veggies from the farmer and also you made a comment about the saturated greens on the image. Excuse me if I have interpreted it wrong.
Other members said that there are no space in Sydney or apartments, and others compared Switzerland with Australia.
No many just said that it is possible to not go hungry with the support of a back yard veggie patch.
I do not have superiority of thinking at all I just posted an example of what people do in their backyards to produce their own food and others come with their legitimate view of their own. My interpretation of some of the posts was that did not understand of what I was trying to say in the original post. Excuse me if I understand them wrong, no arrogance or try to offending not one here :(
You suggested hydroponics and yes it is a way to grown fresh veggies, I did not included it because for a low income earning family would be very hard to have the money to invest in the equipment and maintenance.
There is a lots of ways and examples of urban gardens including the ones in the tall buildings in Singapore.

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Originally Posted by djam1

Chucky it must be hard to carry your burdens
If I look out my window I see red rocks Spinifex and Kangaroos sadly the green flowing hills of Tasmania are miniscule part of the Australian environment.
I could eat the Kangaroos but some bleeding heart will tell me I cant because they are endangered.
My 50 Square Metres will result in not much food because its mainly rock and sand.
If you look at a map of Australia its mainly desert that said if it were possible I would eat off the land

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I have never said that it can be done by all Australians or that would be practical in all the Australian territory.
It can be done in the cities were there is a lot of space if there is a will and also a lot of rain/storm water that can be better used.
I cannot see why if it can be done in Singapore why cannot be done here.

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It can be done

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One thing I neglected to mention about the locally funded community garden (I was attempting to type it on the phone) was that a few weeks after the first crop the place was torn up by someone who decided they wanted the veggies they could have for free if they wanted, but instead just ripped the plants up and from then it was downhill as the local vandals saw that as the opportunity to trash the beds.

From there no one wanted to bother stuffing their own money back in without any other support.

Add to other comments, in NSW only something like 12% of the population live further than 150km from the coast and djam said, past 500km from Sydney it starts to turn red and becomes less and less hospitable for growing anything let alone relying on it to sustain your family.

In contrast I remember wandering the fields around Sheffield (Tas) and just seeing rows and rows of beans, peas, all sorts of veg. All grown and destined for multinational companies to be frozen.

djam1, how close to your place is this community garden?
I saw it in ABC and they have a page in Facebook

I think that is the point, yes veges are good, but for many in urban jungles not always possible.

Rooftop gardens are good for those buildings that have flat roofs.
Communal gardens are good where they can exist.
It would be good if body corporates allowed vege gardens.
Vege gardens or vege gardens in pots are great for kids to learn.

But it is not always possible and even then it's not going to feed the whole family 365 days a year.

I am usually about 20 Ks from there it almost looks civilized
Not sure it will stop us from starving though

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Originally Posted by Chucaro

djam1, how close to your place is this community garden?
I saw it in ABC and they have a page in Facebook

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