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    I wonder if they are related to the Judean suicide squad, of Monty Python fame? Bob

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    Syrian Electronic Army seen as 'nuisance,' not a serious cyberthreat

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    The Syrian Electronic Army claims credit via Twitter for cyberattacks on the New York Times and Huffington Post websites Tuesday.


    By Robert Windrem, Investigative Reporter, NBC News

    The Syrian Electronic Army, the hacking group that claims it shut down Twitter, the Huffington Post and The New York Times three days ago, is threatening in an interview to launch additional cyberattacks on U.S. government agencies if the Obama administration launches a military strike against Syria.


    But despite these and other high-profile attacks, the U.S. government isn't too concerned with the threat by the group, which reportedly is run by a group of 20-something Syrian computer students. While the SEA may continue to inconvenience Internet users, U.S. officials say, it doesn't have the capacity to cause the type of serious damage that cyberforces in countries like China and Russia are believed to be capable of inflicting.

    "The Syrian Electronic Army is a murky, underground group that has made a name for itself by plastering pro-regime propaganda across some of the Internet's most-trafficked sites," said a U.S. official, speaking on background. "It's clearly a nuisance, but its tactics aren't all that sophisticated."
    The SEA — which is believed to operate with the assent of Bashar al-Assad's government, if not its direct support — issued its threat against the U.S. government in an interview published Tuesday by nowthisnews.com, which said it conducted the question-and-answer session via email.
    The SEA had been involved in a number of high-profile cyberattacks even before this week, claiming to have hacked the websites or Twitter accounts of The Associated Press, The Washington Post, NPR, CBS, Reuters, Al Jazeera and others. The most high-profile hack was of AP in April, when it gained access to the news service's Twitter account and falsely reported that there had been an explosion at the White House.
    But cybersecurity experts say the technology used in those attacks isn't very sophisticated. Most of its attacks, including the one on the Times, have used fairly rudimentary "spearphishing" tactics, which involve concocting virus-laden emails to trick unsuspecting users into handing over their online credentials, permitting wider attacks.
    "There is nothing sophisticated about spearphishing," said Roger Cressey, a former White House cybersecurity official and now an NBC News consultant. "It is a technique used by a range of actors, from state actors all the way down to activist groups. The fact that it works is a flaw in security training and awareness."
    Bottom line, say the experts, there are no reports of the SEA's destroying anything. At worst, it has managed only to temporarily deface some websites — including some run by Syrian insurgents — with pro-regime propaganda.
    There are connections between the Syrian government and the SEA, but experts say it's unclear whether the two work directly together.
    The U.S. official who briefed NBC News said the hacking group appears to set its own targets.
    "While the regime probably welcomes its efforts, Damascus isn't necessarily calling the shots," said the official.
    Helmi Noman, a senior researcher at the University of Toronto who has tracked the SEA virtually from its first posts in 2011, said Internet registration records show the group was set up by the Syrian Computer Society, whose former presidents include Assad, Syria's president, and his late brother Bassel. But he has been unable to find proof that Syrian security services are behind the attacks.


    "Although there are some intriguing connections between the Syrian government and the groups involved in these attacks, we could not find credible evidence that links the two directly beyond the tacit support that would be required for such a group to operate on Syrian networks," he said.
    Noman wrote in 2011 that the SEA's website was set up on May 5 of that year and that the group first identified itself as "a group of young people who love their country and have decided to fight back electronically against those who have attacked Syrian websites and those who are hostile to Syria." Its "about" statement initially stated that it wasn't "an official entity," but that reference was later removed, Noman wrote.
    The group's debut coincided with the first protests against the Assad regime in Deraa, which brought the Arab Spring to Syria.
    Noman also notes that the same week, the Syrian government newspaper al-Wehda identified and praised the leaders of the SEA. It called Hatem Deb, described elsewhere as a teenager, as a "founding member." Another student, Ali Farha, was later mentioned in another Syrian publication as the "manager" of the SEA website.
    Later, Noman told NBC News, Syrian media stopped associating names with the group.
    "Apparently, they did this for fear for legal consequences and repercussions, given that the SEA activities shifted to more questionable attacks," he said. "The Syrian government itself stopped hosting the SEA website in June 2013, apparently for the same reason. I think that is why the SEA moved to servers based in Russia then."
    Now, he said, the clearest indication that the Syrian Electronic Army continues to enjoy the support of the Assad regime is the fact that it continues to distribute its cyber-graffiti.
    It is "close enough to the Syrian regime to be able to operate freely in a country with a regime that is known for its restrictive legal and technical measures," he said.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    The BBC's thoughts, Bob
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    Obama faces difficult timing over Syria strike




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    Americans are taking a long holiday for Labor Day - an awkward time to launch a military strike

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    The US Secretary of State, John Kerry, did far more than just set out the intelligence against Syria. But he did do that.

    Although there is now more detail than we had before about the attack, there is no damning proof.

    Indeed, perhaps for understandable reasons, there is no proof at all - only assertions that we must take on trust. As Mr Kerry himself suggested, after Iraq trust is in short supply.

    He did far more than set out a moral case for military action. What he did was make it impossible for President Barack Obama to back away from it. He said if the US didn't act, history would judge them harshly.

    If they turned a blind eye, it would embolden dictators in Iran and North Korea and leave the US without credibility in the world.

    Mr Obama has made similar points himself. It is not the first time Kerry has made the case. But these were the strongest words yet.

    When Mr Obama spoke he sounded pretty downbeat by comparison, although he too pointed firmly towards some form of action.

    But he was keen to stress that any action would be limited, unlike Afghanistan or Iraq, and would not involve boots on the ground. There are increasing mutterings from Congress, asking him how certain he is of that.

    If a strike doesn't come in the next few days, it may have to wait for next weekend or beyond.

    The president said he had made no decision. It is not clear when he will.

    Mr Kerry suggested there would be a "conversation" with the American people before action.

    There's not much time to talk and, in the next few days, many Americans will be hanging metaphorical "gone fishin'" signs on their front doors. This is Labor Day weekend - a big holiday in the States - and perhaps not the ideal time for a conversation about war.

    Perhaps the president hopes a lot of people aren't paying much attention. But if action doesn't come in the next few days, it may have to wait for next weekend or beyond. The president goes to Sweden on Tuesday, then on to the G20 in Russia.

    There is no iron law saying the president can't order military action while abroad. But it would be odd.

    To do it while he's in Russia would be downright weird and highly provocative. He could cancel the trip but the White House says his plans are still in place.

    After his Secretary of State has ramped up the rhetoric about the historic, momentous importance of sending a signal, leaving it a week might be too long.

    So, many people think there will be action on the weekend or Monday.

    But frankly it's a guess. With this decision even the timing is awkward for the president.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Interesting report from the BBC, Bob [ click on what we know]


    Middle East

    Syria 21 August attack: Frank Gardner on what we know


    31 August 2013 Last updated at 00:13 GMT Help
    As governments wrestle with how to respond to Syria's alleged use of chemical weapons against its own people, the debate continues over exactly what happened and who was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Syrians in the early hours of 21 August.
    The West says the regime used nerve gas, Syria says it was the rebels, and Russia says there is no proof either way.
    The BBC's security correspondent, Frank Gardner, has been examining the evidence and has compiled this special report on what happened that morning.
    This report contains some graphic images that you may find distressing.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    I'd rather wait three weeks than they rush and stuff it up.
    Interesting to see Obama is going to put it to Congress, perhaps they want to make sure they have a real 'legitimate' reason for going in as opposed to when we went in to Iraq
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    Interesting comment by Tony Abbott, that has been roundly criticized by Labor, but with which I agree 100%...He said "Well, it's the baddies against the baddies, isn't it"?
    Cheers, Pickles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Muppet View Post
    I'd rather wait three weeks than they rush and stuff it up.
    Interesting to see Obama is going to put it to Congress, perhaps they want to make sure they have a real 'legitimate' reason for going in as opposed to when we went in to Iraq

    For sure! After Iraq They need 1000% evidence who let these chemical weapons go which i believe they cannot provide
    I also think Obama has realized they can't just launch a few missiles, bugger off and that will be it.
    Syria will respond & There will be way more than just Syria to deal with, it will turn into a major conflict.

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    Have you noticed that the US only has a go at countries that realistically have little chance of retaliating to what is an act of war. A bit like the school yard bully.

    As I have said before maybe the US should expend more effort to reforming the UN so that these type of decisions can actually be made by the UN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Have you noticed that the US only has a go at countries that realistically have little chance of retaliating to what is an act of war. A bit like the school yard bully.

    As I have said before maybe the US should expend more effort to reforming the UN so that these type of decisions can actually be made by the UN.
    Maybe the US should pay the money they owe the UN.
    U.N. official: U.S. is $1.2 billion in arrears at U.N. | Reuters

    Peacekeeping costs money. After the war, they'll need peacekeepers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickles2 View Post
    Interesting comment by Tony Abbott, that has been roundly criticized by Labor, but with which I agree 100%...He said "Well, it's the baddies against the baddies, isn't it"?
    Cheers, Pickles.
    Simplistic but true I guess. When GW Bush was US president we had a lot of similar comments that the media called "Bushisms". "Abbotisms" will be a great thing for comedians and cartoonists after September 7.

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