Thread: Here we go again USA vs Syria

Originally Posted by Chucaro

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Just in case that there can be the remote possibility that you are referring my views I would like to point out that I said quote "I will go further and say all the countries that do not have chemical weapons
should be entitled to assure themselves that ALL Chemical weapons are gone including the ones that have USA.
You see, we not dot want another "Rumsfeld" selling chemical weapons to any country in the same way that we do not want China and Russia to sell them as well as they have done it before.
I think that including all the countries is a very balanced view

I agree with you there.
But I have question for you, & maybe other members may like to chime in.
Are you saying that the U.S. has sold chemical weapons? If so, what were they, & to whom were they sold?
Cheers, Pickles.

Here's an interesting article from the Guardian showing the less commonly expressed views about the U.S.A, their wars and their rather flexible ethics.

Obama's rogue state tramples over every law it demands others uphold | George Monbiot | Comment is free | The Guardian

Originally Posted by Pickles2

G'Day Bob, Yeah...No worries with any of that.
The main thing is that it gets "sorted"......properly.....Assad does what He's told.....with no, "ifs or buts", & no "favourable treatment" of Assad by the Russians.
I just have this feeling that Assad may be, "the best of a bad bunch", so with some "sorting, he may just be, the best bet.
It's a bit like Tony said "It's the baddies against the baddies"?!
Cheers, Pickles.

First of all, who set you up as whether their should be " worries" about what I say? And Assad is going to be "told ' by whom? Assad the best of a bad bunch? you sound like a channel 9 news clip. Bob

Originally Posted by bob10

First of all, who set you up as whether their should be " worries" about what I say? And Assad is going to be "told ' by whom? Assad the best of a bad bunch? you sound like a channel 9 news clip. Bob

Hey, settle down, NO-ONE "SET ME UP" to say ANYTHING about you...right or wrong..I'm simply saying "I" (ME) have no worries....OK...I'm simply speaking for myself & saying that I agree with you.
"Assad is going to be told"?..He will be "told" by whoever heads up this "mission" to rid him of his Chemical Weapons.
"Assad is the best of a bad bunch"....yep,....I think he could be...I mean, if he goes, then who takes over.....from what I read in your post which you may remember I said was VERY interesting, I read that there are all sorts of bad guys amongst the "Rebels", who sound like they could be worse than Assad. I was not aware of this before.
"Channel 9 News Clip"?....Don't know what to make of that one.....I'm simply stating my opinion, which is simply MY opinion, which I certainly do NOT expect everyone to agree with.
Cheers, Pickles.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

Hey, settle down, NO-ONE "SET ME UP" to say ANYTHING about you...right or wrong..I'm simply saying "I" (ME) have no worries....OK...I'm simply speaking for myself & saying that I agree with you.
"Assad is going to be told"?..He will be "told" by whoever heads up this "mission" to rid him of his Chemical Weapons.
"Assad is the best of a bad bunch"....yep,....I think he could be...I mean, if he goes, then who takes over.....from what I read in your post which you may remember I said was VERY interesting, I read that there are all sorts of bad guys amongst the "Rebels", who sound like they could be worse than Assad. I was not aware of this before.
Cheers, Pickles.

Got ya!

Originally Posted by Pickles2

I agree with you there.
But I have question for you, & maybe other members may like to chime in.
Are you saying that the U.S. has sold chemical weapons? If so, what were they, & to whom were they sold?
Cheers, Pickles.

I guess that here are some references for you. do a bit of research

http://www.theguardian.com/world/200.../iraq.politics
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/...q-ushelp_x.htm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...l-weapons.html
http://truth-out.org/news/item/18710...emical-weapons
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2% 80%93Iraq_war"]United States support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2247256.stm

I've looked at them.
None of them say that the "US SOLD CHEMICAL WEAPONS".
What they do say is that the US may have turned a blind eye to some countries who may have been making these weapons.
I'm not saying the U.S. is without blame, or without guilt. What I'm saying is that they've also done a lot of good in the world too....
On balance, I say the U.S. done a LOT more good than bad.
Cheers, Pickles.

Please do a research before doubt what it is public ....
US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld helped Saddam Hussein build up his arsenal of deadly chemical and biological weapons, it was revealed last night.

As an envoy from President Reagan 19 years ago, he had a secret meeting with the Iraqi dictator and arranged enormous military assistance for his war with Iran.

The CIA had already warned that Iraq was using chemical weapons almost daily. But Mr Rumsfeld, at the time a successful executive in the pharmaceutical industry, still made it possible for Saddam to buy supplies from American firms.

They included viruses such as anthrax and bubonic plague, according to the Washington Post.

The extraordinary details have come to light because thousands of State Department documents dealing with the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war have just been declassified and released under the Freedom of Information Act.

On November 1, 1983, a full month before Mr Rumsfeld's visit to Baghdad, Secretary of State George Shultz was officially informed that the CIA had discovered Iraqi troops were resorting to 'almost daily use of chemical weapons' against the Iranians.

Nevertheless, Mr Rumsfeld arranged for the Iraqis to receive billions of pounds in loans to buy weapons and CIA Director William Casey used a Chilean front company to supply Iraq with cluster bombs.

SOURCE

Yes, USA used his "good friend" Augusto Pinochet the dictator put by them in Chile
That good doing by USA cost more than 60000 lives.
Do you like to read a bit more about the "goods"done by them?
Then again better no, the pain to remember all it is to close to my chest, I live it up to you to do the research .........