Thread: Knowing what you eat

Not only the above, but Monsanto has bought up a substantial number of the seed supply companies in WA, and I believe throughout Australia.. . Would they be having an each-way bet, or simply ensuring a monopoly?

Why am I not surprised?

Never mind that most of Europe does'nt want GM produce,

In Europe, March Against Monsanto Is Latest Rejection of the GMO Giant

and more than one country's courts have convicted Monsanto of...Lying.

Monsanto Lies, Again (and Again and Again) | Corporate Crime Daily

As for being more cost-effective... My farmer friends beg to differ. GM crops can be very sensitive to timely 'poisoning' and failure due to weather etc can create huge losses of 'Return on Investment'

One has to ask why our pollies are so keen to let them in, especially with our (previous...) world class plant breeding expertise...

For those that may think that "this is another conspiracy theory" just remember (if you are old enough) that this is the Monsanto that said that
DDT, PCB,saccharin,saccharin,etc were safe

Chucaro, while I agree with the thrust of the article I find it unduly alarmist and also pushing the barrow of the organics industry. AFAIK ther ehave been no human health trials for Neem which is used by teh organics industry.
Have a look at this site which IMHO gives a pretty good overview.
Genetically modified (GM) foods | Better Health Channel

Chucaro, while I agree with the thrust of the article I find it unduly alarmist and also pushing the barrow of the organics industry. AFAIK for example there have been no human health trials for Neem which is used by the organics industry.
Have a look at this site which IMHO gives a pretty good overview.
Genetically modified (GM) foods | Better Health Channel

The main drivers of wanting GM are not politicians but FARMERS who want to make more money.

I was involved in advising the NSW Govt back in 2003 or so to place a moratorium on GM trials and as the article says AFAIK today no GM foods are grown in Australia for human consumption.

They also have to be labelled in Australia.

The big problem is that export markets like Japan do not pay farmers a significant premium for certified GM free grain, particularly when it is cattle feed. They worry about direct human consumption but couldn't care less about what their animals eat which is a bit short sighted.
BTW the doco is about 10-15 years out of date and the 50 year old spray shots are pretty amateurish.
BTW do you know that ALL wine yeasts in Australia are GM? So if you drink wine you will die soon.( well according to the doco).
Regards Philip A

Did you see the story in the USA a few years back how Monsanto sent a farmer into bankruptcy because he had the hide to keep some of his wheat crop to plant the next year. Seems the wheat is owned (somehow) by Monsanto and this wheat will only grow if you use certain Monsanto chemicals, so each year you have to buy Monsanto seed, talk about a monopoly, Regards Frank.

Philip, the video can be old but by all means not out of date. What was described in it is what happens now in the 3rd world countries.
The filming of the spray are a non copy writhed clips and the way of spraying is currently used in many countries.
Regarding Neem it is not genetically modified and it is in use for more than 1000 years. I trust more the use of Neem than a product modified by a greedy corporation like Monsanto.
When I was doing (here in Australia) the Bs in Agriculture Mechanization the teaching in minimum tillage techniques was in many cases based in a heavy use of Roundup. I say this to show you that research and formal education it is not necessary more reliable or valid than the teaching of using natural pest control plants that have been used by hundreds of years.
How wrong was that teaching at the Uni when they promoted the use of minimum and zero tillage to protect the soil and at the same time used Roundup which killed the biologic life in the soil for many years to come.
It make you wonder.......

You are saying the in Australia the food must be labeled as a GM why then the wine labels do not say anything about GM ingredients on it?
I would appreciate if you can provide me with a document proving this with the list of the wineries that using GM yeast so I can complain about it.
Cheers

Frank, that story of the farmer in USA it is repeating not only there but in South America as well.
The Argentinian present government is sold out to the use of GM soy from Monsanto and amount of land used by that crop up there is main blowing !
Many of the points in the video including are happening now in Argentina and Paraguay.

McDonalds removes chemical ammonium hydroxide from hamburger recipe

ccording to Oliver, the fatty parts of beef are "washed" in ammonium hydroxide and used in the filling of the burger. He says, "Basically, we're taking a product that would be sold in the cheapest way for dogs, and after this process, is being given to human beings."

Besides the low quality of the meat, the ammonium hydroxide is harmful to health. Oliver calls it "the pink slime process."

"Why would any sensible human being put meat filled with ammonia in the mouths of their children?" asked the chef, who wages a war against the fast food industry.