Some drivers out there, its really getting scarey

I'm supprised that L Platers are allowed to do 100KPH, in NSW they are retricted to 80kph, as are Red P Platers, I also thought this was a National Law.

Anyway stay safe out there, the idiots are always there and you will come across them from time to time.

Baz.

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I put forward a further proposition....people without bullbars on the front of their cars are LESS likely to hit a kangaroo. Proven beyond doubt in my mind.

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I have bull bars on both my Land Rovers, the Rangie has a winch/offroad style bar and the D2 has an ARB which it came with (was a tourer). Mum has a Disco 2 which is bone stock.

Of all the cars I've ever driven I've come closer to hitting pedestrians/cyclists/cars, all at their own fault in the car with the nice soft plastic bar. People are scared of getting cleaned up by a bull bar, hence they think twice about pulling out an endangering oncoming traffic.

Australia is more than just the city, it's a bloody big place, and between all the little dots on the map there's animals on every road.

The bull bar debate is old, and egged on my people that never leave the city, hit a roo and you'll understand why people fit bull bars.

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Originally Posted by Redback

I'm supprised that L Platers are allowed to do 100KPH, in NSW they are retricted to 80kph, as are Red P Platers, I also thought this was a National Law.

Anyway stay safe out there, the idiots are always there and you will come across them from time to time.

Baz.

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Both are restricted to 90, no longer 80.

It's still ridiculous, massive danger to trucks etc.

I always did the speed limit, can't handle someone on my tail. Never got booked for it either.

Cheers
Will

That is’t nice!

“OldBushie” with reference to caravaners,

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Originally Posted by MR LR jnr.

Both are restricted to 90, no longer 80.

It's still ridiculous, massive danger to trucks etc.

I always did the speed limit, can't handle someone on my tail. Never got booked for it either.

Cheers
Will

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Well there ya go, it's changed again

No it's not rediculous, there's a reason Learner and P platers are restricted and that's because they can't and don't react correctly or as well as older more mature drivers that have been driving longer, like everything you learn, you start out slowly and learn the princables first.

Baz.

Baz, L/P plater speed limits are a state thing, and regardless of where you get your license you have to follow the state rules.
Personally I think 90 for learners and reds, 110 for greens would be better, some learners at 80 are down right dangerous.
But I guess that's why they're on their Ls.
Bullbars?
If you're getting hit by a Land Rover under motion it's six of one IMHO.
I also leave my tow hitch in most of the time, enjoy clubbing baby seals to death, and dumping any and all my toxic wastes in the lakes.
Right next to the baby ducks.
Cheers
Muppet :twisted:

Teaching your kids to drive certainly heightens your awareness of hazards. After 30+ years of driving, being aware of what others are doing and predicting / expecting dangerous and foolish behaviour has become so routine for most of us that it is almost subconscious; it takes on a whole new perspective when you are communicating it all to a learner driver with zero experience who is in actual control of the vehicle. I have been through the process with 4 kids over a 5 year period, if the car had dual controls I would have worn them out.

Vic did away with lower speed limits for learners, P-platers and motorbikes with pillion passengers back in the early 1980s. A good thing too.
A while back I was overtaken on the Princes Highway by a learner driver doing at least 120km/hr, zig-zagging between traffic, with his little sister in the back seat and grandma- the supervising driver- sound asleep in the passenger seat!

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Teaching your kids to drive certainly heightens your awareness of hazards. After 30+ years of driving, being aware of what others are doing and predicting / expecting dangerous and foolish behaviour has become so routine for most of us that it is almost subconscious; it takes on a whole new perspective when you are communicating it all to a learner driver with zero experience who is in actual control of the vehicle. I have been through the process with 4 kids over a 5 year period, if the car had dual controls I would have worn them out.

Vic did away with lower speed limits for learners, P-platers and motorbikes with pillion passengers back in the early 1980s. A good thing too.
A while back I was overtaken on the Princes Highway by a learner driver doing at least 120km/hr, zig-zagging between traffic, with his little sister in the back seat and grandma- the supervising driver- sound asleep in the passenger seat!

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Here's one for ya, I was overtaken(110kph) by a learner at night on the M5 freeway reading a book by the interior light with the passenger sound asleep:eek:

Bloody hell....and I thought I'D done stupid things in a car :eek:
I seriously don't understand how people don't get that it's not only ****ing stupid, it's dangerous as hell, particularly with passengers.
I got overtaken by an L plater once...in the middle of town...on a Roundabout....in the wrong lane....with mum and dad (Or spawn guardians) jeering in the back making gestures and throwing beer cans at people.....

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.... hit a roo and you'll understand why people fit bull bars.

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Also why people who don't have one drive slower and are more alert in case they do. It becomes a bit tedious being ultra vigilant day in, day out though so on goes a bar and with the relaxed consequences comes a higher probability of collecting a roo.
The same can be said about modified trucks. I've seen more of them break than more standard trucks on the same track. The modified guys don't bother picking lines anymore while the standard guys are ultra careful about the line they take.