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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    From the athiests perspective
    Praying; the ability to contribute nothing productive while feeling good about it.
    and think it influenced the end result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger View Post


    Eevo, sometimes disagreeing with something can be done in a more agreeable way..??..
    i dont like to sugar coat things. it only dilutes the message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    i dont like to sugar coat things. it only dilutes the message.
    Sometimes calling a spade a spade actually dilutes the message.

    People are so fixated on the offence that the comment causes that they don't notice the message at all.

    The message is lost and the only thing remembered is the offence.

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    I agree completely with Dave.

    I've grown up with a lot of time spent on a family farm, and hence as a kid spent a lot of time in trucks. It's slowly becoming my turn to drive different machinery.

    The truckie shouldn't have moved over, once a wheel come off the black stuff they can be pretty hard to pull back on! Especially when his family was in the cab!

    Last year I started driving the machinery on the roads, during harvest. And I can tell you that car drivers have no idea what to do, or how to react. I've come within literal inches of sending a tractor and chaser bin off the side of the road, which probably would have cost me my life, all because of an ignorant, arrogant, idiot in an old Commodore, and my nature of looking out for others, just like the truckie in the story.

    Story goes:

    Driving in convoy between farm on the south west slopes. Escort in front with Canola comb, New Holland with chaser bin (me), John Deere header and then a rear escort. We were driving down a stretch of road that was on a flood plain, hence it was elevated with huge, deep table drains and frequent bridges. Dickhead in Commodore passed the header on the dirt (he hadn't had a chance to pull off yet), then comes up behind me.

    Now the chaser bin is 4m wide, and about the same high (20 tonner), so this dipstick couldn't see anything around me. I was traveling at 30kms (flat out for the header) and was about 30m from the start of the bridge (2 lanes). I was driving in the middle of the road getting prepared to go onto the bridge (only had Armco sides). And I couldn't safely let the car past until the other side. Anyway old mate decided the pub was calling too strongly and went onto the dirt again, from here it went very fast for me. He got between my huge rear tyre and the Armco and the tractor, I didn't know until he was there because I'd looked over the check clearance on the left side, and picked him up in my peripherals. Had I not steered the tractor hard left the wheel would have gone straight over his commodore (hand throttle was set). He then sped off into the distance leaving a swearing an honking me behind him.

    The header driver got on the UHF and couldn't believe what he had just watched. Apparently in my reaction I'd got within about 6 inches of cleaning up the Armco with the huge tyre, which would have sent the tractor over the edge had I hit.

    So lesson learned, don't risk your own life for an idiots. I was genuinely shaken after that, and one of my early trips with an oversize load.

    As to Ian's story, the truckie should not have put his family at risk because someone did to their own. But it is just another reminder that people have no idea, unless of course they've driven such a vehicle.

    And in 1995 I don't think many people wore seatbelts in trucks anyway...

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post
    People are so fixated on the offense that the comment causes that they don't notice the message at all.
    i understand what you're saying but thats their problem not mine.
    as they say: you look intelligent so i'll do you the courtesy of being blunt.

    The only people that struggle with being told the blunt truth are liars, people who avoid dealing with things, naive people and people who don't listen.

    Who wants to hear the bad truths? Therefore, when an individual is realistic about or observant of something that others would rather ignore, they are deemed as negative, brutal people. thats isnt the case

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    Thanks for posting it Ian, I read it as having several message's within the story. Sure the grieving mother, but also the actions of the car driver and the outcome he help to deliver, the truck drivers actions , and the unrestraint kids.

    I fail to see how any story that involves the issues in this story cant have emotion and some form of religious mention.

    There would be plenty of very un-religious people out there that have prayed when they were staring death in the face, I know cause I am 1 of them. Haven't prayed since but I can certainly understand it.

    If it makes 1 driver not attempt that overtaking manoeuvre or it makes someone strap their kids into a child seat, then its been well worth posting it and people reading it even if they feel tricked by the title.

    As said earlier, if it helps a grieving mother get on with her life then that's fine by me too.

    The main message is road safety and make sure your brain is engaged when your behind the wheel of no matter what you drive.

    Cheers Ean

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    Eevo I don't know what you do for a job but I'm thinking it's not in the emergancy servicers as Ihave seen far to much death on our roads and it ALWAYS hurts to be void of emotions must be a great burden it dosen't control my life but it still hurts to see another human suffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laney View Post
    Eevo I don't know what you do for a job but I'm thinking it's not in the emergancy servicers as Ihave seen far to much death on our roads and it ALWAYS hurts to be void of emotions must be a great burden it dosen't control my life but it still hurts to see another human suffer.
    im not in emergency services. i work in IT (i am first aid officer at our work) and i was in the army where i saw death, sometimes by my own hand/rifle.


    as long as your in control of your emotions and your emotions arint in control of your life.

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    Well said Ean, thank you for your post I share you view 100%/

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    Quote V8Ian...

    With some of the currant topics being discussed on this site at present, this article is very relivant.
    We all accept that people will die on the roads; occasionally we pass a "fatal' or know someone involved in such incidents and it may jerk us back to reality for a short while.
    If any of you can read that article without shedding a tear or two, you're a harder man than me. No mention of the fate of the car driver was mentioned and it makes no difference to the result. If you stuck red hot needles in the car driver's eyes, on the hour, every hour, for the rest of his/her life it would not bring back those two beautiful kiddies.
    Your actions don't only affect you, they can have deadly repecussions upon others too; could you live with it?
    Take extra care everyone, look-out for each other.


    Good post Ian as I think we all need to "look ahead" when out on the roads these days. I was only thinking to myself earlier about these four beautiful kids who didn't get a chance to live out their lives

    Thekids

    I can't believe it's been almost six years since that fateful day, I planted four trees in their memory and every day when I pass those trees I think about them and their remaining family.

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