The rich get richer.... Poor get...

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Originally Posted by wrinklearthur

Private enterprise at it's best! just be mindful of the advertising restraints of this forum though. :p

I am able to supply your labour needs as I have sweatshop experience ( years working for myself ), lots of alpacas going cheap around here as well, left over from get rich quick schemes that failed still owing investors lots of money.

For the new spinning wheel operator's,.....................

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Done that Arthur, I used to go to farms, select mohair and wool, take it home, wash, then my wife done the spinning, after that I done the dye, weaving in a 12 shaft loom and finish the capes and ponchos.
Show them in art galleries, put them in consignment in art shops for $400 each. The shop selling them for $800 and pay me 6 months after the sell :mad:
Putting the business on one side they were beautiful times knowing farmers and very interesting people. :)

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Originally Posted by Tombie

I doubt that..

Fair days pay for a fair days work is also my belief...


But one must ask themselves; why do we lack so much in the way of labour force?
Plenty of jobs out there but lots unskilled enough to do them.

This is where the government and the people need to work together to provide the skills.

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Tombie, there a lot of people with skills out there that would like to work.
I remember (in my working days) having an interview for a job was easy, just talk with the supervisor or foreman about the job, some times show some papers to back up the qualifications (union bull regulations) and bingo they give you the job and you have the chance to prove yourself.
Now I see the amount of bull that people have to gone trough to even having an interview that it is beyond my comprehension!!
Give the people a fair go regardless age or from were they got their qualifications. In many jobs just 4 week it is enough to know if the person is good or not.
Before the person that was in charge of giving the job was a individual with experience in the job (technical and hands on) now is a graduate in HR for a University :(

That's awesome looking gear mate.

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Originally Posted by dullbird

Hey thanks heaps captian obvious that piece of advice really helped:D

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I know it is obvious, but you would be surprised as to how many people can't see the wood for the trees.

If you actually took it on board it would really help. Household budgeting is very simple economics, unfortunately it is a skill which is almost unknown, or so it seems.
I think that there should be a much higher emphasis placed on financial education at school. Most people learn about money from their parents and most peoples parents have poor money skills.
I realise that is a generalisation, but I think it is one that happens to be true.

An example here was a bloke.
Had many toys: Boat, Harley, house half paid for.

Had done the hard labour to get where he was.

Sold the lot, Pursued his dream of starting his own business doing industrial coatings and media blasting.

Worked his butt off for 5 years in abstract poverty... But the fruits of his labours have now rewarded him.

His business is successful, he has money in his pocket and a good team of well looked after employees.

They are rewarded well for their work and continue to be happy to work for him.

These are the people who take the chance and make things happen.

He could of lost everything. But gave it a go.

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Originally Posted by BigJon

I know it is obvious, but you would be surprised as to how many people can't see the wood for the trees.

If you actually took it on board it would really help. Household budgeting is very simple economics, unfortunately it is a skill which is almost unknown, or so it seems.
I think that there should be a much higher emphasis placed on financial education at school. Most people learn about money from their parents and most peoples parents have poor money skills.
I realise that is a generalisation, but I think it is one that happens to be true.

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Hahaha mate my original comment to Tombie was very tonge and cheek:D..

I'm quite fine with my household budgeting thanks that why I have horses because I can afford to support that hobby:D If I couldn't I wouldn't...;)

my 2c's

My fiance and I bought into a suburb full of housing commission, as we didn't want to (Couldn't) spend more than 400k on a first house. And being of country/farm origin I couldn't live in a unit.

We both work and make good incomes to pay off a house that everyone else in the street got for free.. The majority don't work.
We have no kids, receive no benefits, and pay high tax and rates.

I leave the house at 6:30 - 7 and arrive home after 7pm, every day, take no sick leave and vary rarely take time off. I work in sales, and have my whole working career, so almost everything I earn is based on my performance. So it has been a couple of tough years, but that said I wouldn't do it if I didn't love it.

Our house is falling apart, and the property takes a huge amount of maintenance, including the giant gum out the front that drops branches on my Landie. (Can't get council approval to cut it down, yet, or build a garage)
The housing commission house's get repairs and most maintenance done for free, and if it isn't they complain black and blue.
Most of the low income housing plots built near by accommodate new immigrants, we know which ones do as they all have brand new cars in the driveway. I have no issue with this, they seem to be nice enough people, and since buying a Bullmastiff nothing else has been stolen from the property.

So I say, Rich and Poor comes down to definition, I personally feel I am rich, have a loving partner and feel very comfortable and happy in everything that I do. My family are supportive, and awesome people to spend time with.

But dwell on the things that don't seem so fair, and sure it would be easy to get caught up and negative, but why do that.

If everyone was 'rich' then no one would be.
If everyone worked and was good at what they did, then no one could progress in their career and become successful.

Life isn't short, it is the longest thing we will ever do!

fyi - Don't get me started on the job situation in this country, I have worked in private Recruitment (IT, Engineering and Finance) for the last 6 years, and have experienced some strange going on's.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

An example here was a bloke.
Had many toys: Boat, Harley, house half paid for.

Had done the hard labour to get where he was.

Sold the lot, Pursued his dream of starting his own business doing industrial coatings and media blasting.

Worked his butt off for 5 years in abstract poverty... But the fruits of his labours have now rewarded him.

His business is successful, he has money in his pocket and a good team of well looked after employees.

They are rewarded well for their work and continue to be happy to work for him.

These are the people who take the chance and make things happen.

He could of lost everything. But gave it a go.

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Great story!

Wish I had the guts to make such a decision!

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Originally Posted by dullbird

Hahaha mate my original comment to Tombie was very tonge and cheek:D..

I'm quite fine with my household budgeting thanks that why I have horses because I can afford to support that hobby:D If I couldn't I wouldn't...;)

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I know that Lou...

You are life rich for sure.

Had some great travels, and a hobby you love..
I'd say you have it sorted...

Millions in the bank don't make you rich.

To quote a great brand: One life, live it...

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Originally Posted by rb30gtr

Great story!

Wish I had the guts to make such a decision!

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Me too... He has achieved well.

I looked at doing the same but can't make that final jump.

There are a couple of mechanics on this board that I envy their drive, work ethic and enthusiasm for what they do...

They are the true measure of commitment and work ethic.