Thread: counting down to the next rugby World cup, ticking the right boxes

Originally Posted by Rayngie

Anyone know which box got ticked this morning??

Yep, the ignore the foot on the sideline one, & the forward pass one, leading to the knock on one, & the dodgy video ref one. Lets not talk about the pom scrum "sheering " across the face of the scrum one. But, an improvement, they are on the way. I am happy, this tour will make this side. Bob [ all we needed was a neutral ref ]

And right there was the "it's somebody else's fault" box being ticked.

Originally Posted by sheerluck

And right there was the "it's somebody else's fault" box being ticked.

Did you watch the game?. Obviously not. The 1% plays [ don't let Newman know], such as trying to get too much distance & kicking out on the full, Sloppy passing, Genia & that kick, still hold the Wallabies back. Not saying the referee & linesman who stood & watched the English player stand on the sideline 2 yards out from his line, & pass the ball infield, to take the pressure off, or the obvious 2 yard forward pass with the Poms in attack, & then the knock on in the same movement, & the obvious front row tactics [ illegal] from the Poms means the Referee & his mates were cheats, just incompetent. Have to admit, getting a bit tired of chatting to the same old trolls, will only chat to those who actually know what they are talking about, cheers, Bob

Try this,
Video: how wasn't this obstruction?

Wallabies' grand bid slammed by Poms

Originally Posted by bob10

Did you watch the game?. Obviously not.

Funny how you know so much, but oh so little. Yes I did watch the match, from beginning to end.

Originally Posted by bob10

The 1% plays [ don't let Newman know], such as trying to get too much distance & kicking out on the full, Sloppy passing, Genia & that kick, still hold the Wallabies back. Not saying the referee & linesman who stood & watched the English player stand on the sideline 2 yards out from his line, & pass the ball infield, to take the pressure off, or the obvious 2 yard forward pass with the Poms in attack, & then the knock on in the same movement, & the obvious front row tactics [ illegal] from the Poms means the Referee & his mates were cheats, just incompetent.

So the England team were cheating with their tactics, the referee and linesmen were cheating (which is what you have written) and the Aussie scrum was as pure as the driven snow. Yep, that accounts for the 7-1 penalty count in the first half hour, and why the ref was forced to talk twice to Mowen to give them a final warning.

It's funny how people can look without seeing.

Originally Posted by bob10

Have to admit, getting a bit tired of chatting to the same old trolls, will only chat to those who actually know what they are talking about, cheers, Bob

And then we get back to the same old Bob recipe of "if I'm not winning an argument, then I'll start being rude and abusive". Predictable.

Poor r****** aside, it was a dire game....England were quite pedestrian and had no ideas in attack, Ewan's traveling Southern Hemisphere invitational XV really were hopeless, QC had nothing in attack, Tomua was the standout, AAC had a good go, but he must be sick of never really getting an opportunity, Folau is definitely getting better, But it gets back to the forwards....too damn soft, the loosies aside ( Fardy was good, as was Hooper), but the tight five are abysmal...., had hopes for Timani being a mongrel but the Messiah is coaching toughness out of these guys.

The AB's and SA are clearly 1st & 2nd but it's daylight for 3rd & 4th, the rest of the top ten are looking a bit embarrassing, at least the Cherry Blossoms showed guts and heart for 80mins...

Originally Posted by Rayngie

Poor r****** aside, it was a dire game....England were quite pedestrian and had no ideas in attack, Ewan's traveling Southern Hemisphere invitational XV really were hopeless, QC had nothing in attack, Tomua was the standout, AAC had a good go, but he must be sick of never really getting an opportunity, Folau is definitely getting better, But it gets back to the forwards....too damn soft, the loosies aside ( Fardy was good, as was Hooper), but the tight five are abysmal...., had hopes for Timani being a mongrel but the Messiah is coaching toughness out of these guys.

The AB's and SA are clearly 1st & 2nd but it's daylight for 3rd & 4th, the rest of the top ten are looking a bit embarrassing, at least the Cherry Blossoms showed guts and heart for 80mins...

I will talk to you , because you have it fairly spot on. England were pedestrian, the Wallabies were not much better. I remember saying before this tour it would be a learning curve for the Wallabies, and it will be. All it would have taken was one kick from Toomea to go out, one proper call from a touch judge, and it would be a different result. Then all you experts would be getting up the Poms. Our forwards were tentative in the defensive ruck & maul, because they had been penalised out of the game, at that point. I make this point, a different referee , we would have a different result. There is only one team in the World that can claim to be the best , & that is the All Blacks. We will get to the stage to beat them, England will not. Let's see how that pans out, Bob

Here's my take:

Those calls were really crap and ruined the game to a degree, but the crapper thing was that Australia as a team didn't man up and take control of the game when they were under pressure.

In my opinion, the English didn't deserve the two tries that eventuated from atrociously poor refereeing decisions, but Australia showed those similar flaws of losing consistency and control as soon as the game was being decided, and pressure was on. Consistency is the killer; knockons, isolated players, ordinary passes and penalties pop up instead of simple advantage-line plays and building pressure. Although England won, I think it's more fair to say that Australia lost the game.

I think too much emphasis is being put on territory, where it would be nice to keep the ball in hand and play possession, starving the opposition of the ball. But this takes consistency.

I don't know up from down in scrums these days, it seems like Australia was getting penalised consistently against the feed when things hit the fan, but I'm not sure how the decision is reached.

Sam

Originally Posted by series3

Here's my take:

Those calls were really crap and ruined the game to a degree, but the crapper thing was that Australia as a team didn't man up and take control of the game when they were under pressure.

In my opinion, the English didn't deserve the two tries that eventuated from atrociously poor refereeing decisions, but Australia showed those similar flaws of losing consistency and control as soon as the game was being decided, and pressure was on. Consistency is the killer; knockons, isolated players, ordinary passes and penalties pop up instead of simple advantage-line plays and building pressure. Although England won, I think it's more fair to say that Australia lost the game.

I think too much emphasis is being put on territory, where it would be nice to keep the ball in hand and play possession, starving the opposition of the ball. But this takes consistency.

I don't know up from down in scrums these days, it seems like Australia was getting penalised consistently against the feed when things hit the fan, but I'm not sure how the decision is reached.

Sam

England were bloody ponderous in attack, and given this was their first international under the new scrum rules, a bit sloppy there. Unfortunately it just highlights how **** Aus were. You would hope they will get better, but its going to be a long row to hoe. Bob, you'd be better to be a bit more circumspect, rather than being an eyes closed apologist for a **** team.