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    So in reality working a public holiday where it's single time and one days extra holiday it's really double time and those cops working casual would be getting penalty rates. As to 12 hrs shifts, many places, myself included, do that for better lifestyle. We do 4(2 days 2 nights) on and 4 off with the 38 every 12 week's .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Whippy View Post
    They do not deliver any parcels, just a note with the mail telling me there is one to be picked up.
    Unfortunately that is the norm. now. In reality, the postie, or parcel contractor must make an attempt to deliver the parcel, & after finding you not home, leave a card , giving pick up details. Most don't bother to take the time to do this on the day, because it just takes too much time. You're lucky if you get the card the next day, and if it is actually the Post Office & not the Postie/contractor who issues the card, you will have waited about 7 days for your article, because the Post Office keeps it , waiting for you to come in, assuming it was carded correctly. Just on penalty rates, if Restaurants remove penalty rates, does that mean they remove the 15% surcharge charged extra on public holidays? Bob
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    ........ Just on penalty rates, if Restaurants remove penalty rates, does that mean they remove the 15% surcharge charged extra on public holidays? Bob
    That would be the day
    It would not surprise me if some greedy bugger come with the proposal to employ boat people for a bowl of rice with the purpose to "help"them to integrate to the Australian way of life

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucaro View Post
    That would be the day
    It would not surprise me if some greedy bugger come with the proposal to employ boat people for a bowl of rice with the purpose to "help"them to integrate to the Australian way of life
    Don't want to harp on it, but can only say what I know, I have a friend who has been a parcel contractor for Aus. Post for many years, each contract renewal they turn the screws a bit harder. He told me it is getting to the stage where it is not viable for him to remain in business. He told me down in Melbourne, certain workers from a sub-continent close to Aus. have formed syndicates and are offering to take up contracts for extremely low prices , now that's business, I guess, and everyone needs to work, but I believe the delivery standard has dropped alarmingly, and I know English doesn't necessarily have to be spoken to deliver a parcel, but I'm willing to suggest before long there will cases of contractors being found with a house full of parcels, because of delivery pressures [ has happened before] Bob
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Don't want to harp on it, but can only say what I know, I have a friend who has been a parcel contractor for Aus. Post for many years, each contract renewal they turn the screws a bit harder. He told me it is getting to the stage where it is not viable for him to remain in business. He told me down in Melbourne, certain workers from a sub-continent close to Aus. have formed syndicates and are offering to take up contracts for extremely low prices , now that's business, I guess, and everyone needs to work, but I believe the delivery standard has dropped alarmingly, and I know English doesn't necessarily have to be spoken to deliver a parcel, but I'm willing to suggest before long there will cases of contractors being found with a house full of parcels, because of delivery pressures [ has happened before] Bob


    I see this in my business the client knows what it costs to employ people but happily gives contracts to people/companies at less than cost price even state and fed govt departments do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reads90 View Post
    Interesting one is day care

    I have to pay full wack for my kids to be there to
    Tomorrow but there not because it is closed. But I still have to pay $75 a day for each of them even though they at home with me.

    And the girls working in the day care who look after my kids , don't get paid for public holidays at all. So that 100% pure profit for the daycare center tomorrow. That pretty standard around the country in day care.
    My Mrs told me about this scam on the weekend. I had never heard of such a thing. Luckily our childcare place gives us a "makeup" day whenever there is a public holiday on one of the days our daughter goes to childcare.
    I wouldn't use a place that charges for nothing, it would be like me sending customers invoices for services that I haven't done on their cars.

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    I know of 2 gov't contracts up here that the employer's profit margin dosen't cover the yearly wage review 2.6%.They relay on profitable sites elsewere [in aust or overseas]to cover their loses here.when things go belly up over there they cut cost's were ever they can including trying to not pay penalties.

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    This is where some sort of law needs to be enacted. E.g contract for job requires 10 people for 8 hrs a day at M dollars per hour minimum, so the minimum quote will be 400x M, + tax, GST, super,insurance etc. Then awarding quote comes down to what else each tender offers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm View Post
    Sounds like they were there in the days of Post Agencies when the operators were paid a salary by Australia Post. Post Agents were given the option of changing to an LPO or accepting a surrender package. Licensed Post Offices are a quite different arrangement. LPO's have to generate their own income by sales and commissions. Some are absolute gold mines getting commission on banking, bill paying, Western Union transfers and so on and on. Your parent's shop might be in a bad location. Our local PO is busy all day.
    True. My parents opted for the LPO. Being rural, they also but separately hold the delivery contracts. The LPO indeed makes it's money from everything other than letters and stamps. Luckily, our shopfront is zoned in such a way M&D can sell almost anything including perishables.
    Another post mentions the delivery aspect. My parents have been very savvy and have managed to eek a living out of AusPost. They benefit from lack of competition (those 'syndicates' haven't ventured that rural yet). It's actually tender time and I know most of this info from the tender process. The Parcel and Freight 'partner' of Auspost will soon not be allowed to dump their undelivered or nodal consignments at our shop without paying full delivery rate to us - in effect lodging it for delivery. This was able to be negotiated only because of the lack of interest in the runs by the syndicates. FWIW AusPost tender section squeal when your tender includes 400 000 km (over three years) @ $36.80 per km.

    BTW, my parents would happily sellout to a 'syndicate'.

    Ralph

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph1Malph View Post

    BTW, my parents would happily sellout to a 'syndicate'.

    Ralph
    Word is, when Post offers up sections of the job for sale, the remote country sections will not be offered up as part of the package. No profit, private enterprise are not interested. Another interesting development, delivery to your house may become a thing of the past. Mail may be delivered to " nodes ", & you have to travel to the node to pick up mail. Internet is king. Bob
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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