Thread: Is this the end of "Real" 4x4's ?

Originally Posted by mopar

if its been purchased for towing then i think thats ok. but if it was just purchased for use as an everyday car then why?

rav 4s etc arent realy 4x4's and i still cant see the point in owning one if you dont have the need (ie a slippery driveway or needing to get onto muddy worksite or something.

agree with everything else here except the 0% alchohol limit as posted earlier. im on my p plates and have a 0.00% alchohol limit and it sucks. you cant have a beer after work. cant have a quiet one down the pub then drive. and if you realy hit the **** you cant drive for most of the next day. and the worst bit is that im 18 (i believe it should be raised to .02 or even .01 like it used to be for p platers) but only after you have been on your p plates for a year regardless of age (so that those who need/want to get their licence earlier benifit. the ones who wait till their 20 to get their licence still have to wait the year)

well I will go against the grain here and say why not? why own a skyline, porche or an aston why own anything that can do 0-6 in less than 6 seconds why have the fast cars when the speed limit apart from the northen territory is 110kph....and around the burbs and the city 50kph
I think people should be able to drive what they like the look of, feel comfortable in perhaps have confidence in...just because we use our cars in the way that we do does not give us any right to dictate to people what they should and shouldn't drive. As they shouldn't us because they dont drive 4b's also doesn't give them the right to tell us we can't drive them.

Originally Posted by one_iota

This was my take on a similar topic on another forum:

"If banning bull bars is the answer what is the question?

Is it to do with pedestrian safety? If so then:

Why do some pedestrians have less road sense than a roo?

The characteristics seem to be walking off the footpath into on coming traffic without looking right, left then right again. Standing in the middle of the road oblivious to the danger of being hit.

I think it is time for the Government (and investigative journalism) to step in:

All pedestrians should be licenced through a 3 year process with L and P plates tested by registered examiners in theory and practical tests.

L platers must be accompanied by a licensed pedestrian at all times

On the granting of a licence the licensed pedestrian must display a registration licence and wear light clothing with no protruding objects (back packs). This will be inspected annually with pink slips and fees at the registery.

12 demerit points will apply except over deemed periods when double demerit points will apply.

Don't Walk cameras will be installed at all traffic lights and fines and demerit points will be applied.

J walkers will be fined heavily.

If they happen to encounter a vehicle with a bull bar at 40 km + then the question should be asked: what were they doing on the road in the first place. I don't drive on the foot path. With or without a bull bar what difference would this impact have.

BTW I don't have a bull bar and I have been really scared driving on the road more by pedestrians than by motor vehicles."

the only way the government would intervene would be to knock such activities as of owning a 4B on the head, next would come the draconian law of not allowing any of the last remaining 4B owners to go bush for fear of damaging the landscape even though any sensible person would tread lightly and endeavour to leave no footprint, It seems to be the case in the u.k. at the moment.
they are closing green lanes at a rate of knots.
Forgot to mention when Bluey went over the pits the officious ***** made me cut the bullbar off either side of the lights the brushguards and the side steps