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    Anyone have LR shock / damper data or specifications?

    Ok, this is a long-shot and probably not the best place to post this but i rather need this in a hurry.

    I currently have long travel shocks (12") in with Superior Engineering in QLD to get a re-valve done - they are currently valved to suit a Patrol front.

    Now i have given them corner weights for a 110 Td5 Defender, spring rates etc, but the icing on the cake would be any data for Land Rover specific shocks. What this might be or what it looks like i don't really know, but if it's out there please let me know!

    This would be good news, as it means long travel shocks could be valved to suit locally and not just the usual make-do with shocks valved for Patrols / Cruisers etc.

    Shoot a PM if preferred...Cheers!

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    I remember reading some specs of shocks for Defenders on Pirate, but that was a few years ago...and their search function doesn't seem to exist for non-members so use google...
    If you find out anything, post up

    Edit: Try this thread http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/land-...ng-rovers.html
    A couple of familiar names feature...

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    Nice one Mark, good link... hopefully that might be enough information to get them started... how that relates to a different brand of shock i don't know... but if they have comparable data for Billsteins on a Cruiser and compare data already available on Amada's they might be able to connect the dots.

    I know this sort of info isn't easy to come by, i imagine shock dyno testing, road testing, shim pack changing and all the rest would be a big investment.

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    And just to muddy the waters a tad more, the angle of the shocks changes the dynamics too, hence the GL rear mounts have three positions...at least the fronts are vertical!

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    Yep, onto that... the rear shock with the GL mount sits at exactly 60 degrees in the furthest mounting position... which is pretty close to original angle anyway just mounted higher up.

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    Here is an explanation of the Bilstein Valving: eshocks.com: Bilstein Off-Road Shock Guide

    20 inches/second is the velocity, force is in Newtons x10.

    I soo need to build me a shock dyno. The ride of landcruiser shocks isn't flash.

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    Interesting... the Pirate guys seem to like the 360/80 valving but the table in the link recommends 255/70 (softer) valving for a full size truck with solid axles.

    I suppose there are so many variables it's only a guide anyway.

    An interesting side note, when i had the cornerweights done, the Defender was almost perfect 50/50 weight distribution... the guy that weighed it said he's done a few Patrols and cruisers and they tend to be nose heavy and a lot more weight on the drivers side front than the passenger side front and this is before the driver gets in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldCloverLeaf View Post
    Interesting... the Pirate guys seem to like the 360/80 valving but the table in the link recommends 255/70 (softer) valving for a full size truck with solid axles.

    I suppose there are so many variables it's only a guide anyway.

    An interesting side note, when i had the cornerweights done, the Defender was almost perfect 50/50 weight distribution... the guy that weighed it said he's done a few Patrols and cruisers and they tend to be nose heavy and a lot more weight on the drivers side front than the passenger side front and this is before the driver gets in.
    Hey Mike,what did your corners weigh in at?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldCloverLeaf View Post
    Interesting... the Pirate guys seem to like the 360/80 valving but the table in the link recommends 255/70 (softer) valving for a full size truck with solid axles.

    I suppose there are so many variables it's only a guide anyway.

    An interesting side note, when i had the cornerweights done, the Defender was almost perfect 50/50 weight distribution... the guy that weighed it said he's done a few Patrols and cruisers and they tend to be nose heavy and a lot more weight on the drivers side front than the passenger side front and this is before the driver gets in.
    Some of the pirate guys were running 300lb/in springs. You need a lot more rebound damping to control that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldCloverLeaf View Post
    Interesting... the Pirate guys seem to like the 360/80 valving but the table in the link recommends 255/70 (softer) valving for a full size truck with solid axles.

    I suppose there are so many variables it's only a guide anyway.

    An interesting side note, when i had the cornerweights done, the Defender was almost perfect 50/50 weight distribution... the guy that weighed it said he's done a few Patrols and cruisers and they tend to be nose heavy and a lot more weight on the drivers side front than the passenger side front and this is before the driver gets in.
    Is a full size truck a 3 tonne Landy or one of those massive Silverado/Ram/Suburban/F Truck buckets?

    Did you weigh it loaded or empty?

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