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ChatterBox
Some fool before me changed mine to coils. So I can understand you thinking they have low ride quality. I have since changed mine back to airbags so mines not rough at all.Originally Posted by MR LR
That's a load of bollocks.
Defenders don't need brute force, after all they have the suspension of the original luxury 4WD, the Range Rover, a Defender doesn't need brute force, just drive it with control.
Have you driven any Land Rover other than a D2?
I think you'd find it has the lowest ride quality of all the coiled live axles Landies, that's my opinion though, I had a D1 (foolishly sold it, I'll never stop regretting that) and bought a RRC as I missed the ride quality! D2's are rough because they handle well in the bends!
In my opinion (and I virtually learnt to drive in one) a 75 series is a very different machine to a Land Rover, if you want a bull dozer, just buy a CAT.
Cheers
Will
EDIT: I drive a D2, and I don't think it's finessful off-road at all, it's too stiff. Traction control and RRC flex would be amazing, so I give you... the DEFENDER.
D2, too stiff? You obviously haven't driven one with ACE.
Just a question. Did the TD5 Defender have traction control?
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Terry
D1 V8 (Gone)D2a HSE V8 (Gone)D3 HSE TDV6 (Unfortunately Gone)D4 V8
ChatterBox
Dunno. Somthin about Disco or Defender in TD5. Got side tracked. Isn't 4x4ing all about side tracks?What was the original question again? ...
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Swaggie
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ChatterBox
Interestingly, it's the front I hate the ride of... there is not enough travel.
The ACE cars are even stiffer until they disconnect, I hate the fact that when you turn into a side street you get rolled side to side like mad.
Yes the Xtemes did.
Swaggie
what???????!
have any of you driven a 75 series and then a defender ?????
you seriously can't compare a characterless, rough riding, boring, inefficient gutless although reasonably 'strong' vehicle with a defender or county??
Yes the 110 etc have their fair share of 'issues' but the cruiser is just so far away from a lifestyle and enjoyable drive that it isn't on the same page.
YES, I HAVE driven them, lots of them. I have serviced them, repaired them and turboed them and I still get a bigger smile driving my Isuzu 110 home at the end of the day, and especially touring in the 110. Overtaking HZJ75 series on hills towing my camper fills me with joy
As regards the original question, I started off with a lifted capable 4.6 RRC, fitted a 4BD1t and 110 running gear, loved it. After LOTS of km's and some fatigue setting in, the 110 took its place. Don't regret it at all, even when the floor is wet in the mornings after a night of drizzle, and I can't fit into some carparks . The choice really needs to be yours, and yours alone.
Please don't think the 75 is a good alternative to a defender, it is just an alternative
JC
The Isuzu 110. Solid and as dependable as a rock, coming soon with auto box😊
The Range Rover L322 4.4.TTDV8 ....probably won't bother with the remap..😈
Master
Reading through this thread, I think I'd better not comment. With both a td5 Disco and a td5 Defender in the driveway, I might be able to make a reasonable comparison between the two.
Nah, can't have that.
Sounds like the OP wants a Defender, just needs to save up a little more. A Disco would be more efficient on the highway during the week, but mods to improve offroad ability will probably undo the difference, so, meh.
ChatterBox
My front travel has been fixed with a 2 inch lift and 7100 Billies.
You must have been in a Disco with the ACE not working properly. Mine had air in the system and did exactly that before throwing up the orange light and locking the bar which made it ridiculously stiff. Now I have it all running right, it's fantastic. It's a very clever system and you'd need to read RAVE to understand it a bit. Running straight up the road it will be disconnected so it'll allow left or right wheels to run throw dips or bumps without upsetting the vehicle much but once you turn the steering wheel when hooking through a round about or the like and it's like its on rails. Same goes off road the valves open and allow the rams to move freely and allow full articulation. I must admit I hatted the thing to start with but I didn't understand it and it wasn't working properly. After replacing a ram, a blown hose, ACE filter and cleaning valves I now have the confidence in the system that if ianything goes wrong it wont leave me stranded.
Happy Days.
ChatterBox
I actually said I don't like the stiffness going around corners... such as when the camber of the road changes, and as I drive fast, the ACE stays engaged, I found I preferred the cars without it on-road, (although they still do the bucking thing such as coming out of my driveway) but then I'm not at all scared of body roll haha.
Basically all I'm saying is that I think the ride quality of a stock Range Rover classic is far superior to that of any stock series 2 Discovery.
ChatterBox
As for all you guys bagging the 75 series.
I said when I posted it I knew the response I was going to get posting that on a LR forum but thats my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
I appreciate my LR for it's comforts and it's cheaper purchase price that a Toyota.
While the TD5 has more power, better fuel economy, smoother and more drivable. It's a complicated motor that requires better, more expensive oil, specific coolant and it's computer controlled. The 1HZ on the other hand is an old clunker that just keeps clunking. They are a rock solid motor. The 5 speed gearbox in the Toyota will see welll past 400,000km where LR autos are dieing under 200,000km.
If I wanted something noisy and rattling and driving for charater more than comfort, I'd choose a Toyota.
Happy days.
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