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I received the same E-mail, and signed, but not confident it will do any good, BobQuote:
Originally Posted by brenno
I think it will do jack **** but hey its worth a try I guessQuote:
Originally Posted by weeds
For those who did not get the E-mail, here is the proposal, Bob
National Parks Camping and Accommodation Fees
Victorian National Parks Camping and Accommodation Fees – Regulatory Impact Statement
There are about 680 campgrounds in Victoria's parks and reserves, costing significant public funds to maintain and operate each year. These costs need to be recovered so that Victoria can continue to provide great visitor experiences in nature, with safe, modern campgrounds and facilities.
The current funding model is insufficient to ensure the maintenance and safety of all Victoria's public land campsites. The standard of facilities and maintenance across these sites will begin to suffer unless we make changes.
The Government has prepared a regulatory impact statement (RIS) to assess the impact of introducing a user pays approach to camping fees for all parks and reserves managed by Parks Victoria. This is part of the Government's efforts to make sure that Victorians continue to have access to these beautiful places and that the costs of providing safe, visitor-friendly facilities and services are sustainable and affordable.
These changes will provide longer-term financial sustainability for these special places.
Maintaining the safety, facilities and services at campgrounds makes them more attractive to visitors, which contributes to people's well-being and boosts tourism and economic activity in regional Victoria.
The new approach is expected to be introduced in Victoria's parks and reserves from 1 March 2014.
List of parks subject to proposed news fees from 1 March 2014.
People are invited to provide feedback on the RIS.
Written submissions should be forwarded by 5:00pm Friday 22 November 2013 via either of the following:
Post
Camping and Accommodation Fees
Land Management Policy Division
Department of Environment and Primary Industries
Level 3, 8 Nicholson Street
EAST MELBOURNE VIC 3002
Online
Email: camping.RIS@depi.vic.gov.au
Regulatory Impact Statement
Regulatory Impact Statement https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...013/11/374.jpg [PDF File - 1.4 MB]
Regulatory Impact Statement https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...013/11/375.jpg [MS Word Document - 3.9 MB]
Regulatory Impact Statement executive summary https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...013/11/374.jpg [PDF File - 158.0 KB]
Regulatory Impact Statement executive summary https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...013/11/375.jpg [MS Word Document - 75.0 KB]
Regulatory Impact Statement Fact Sheet https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...013/11/374.jpg [PDF File - 216.9 KB]
Regulatory Impact Statement Fact Sheet https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...013/11/375.jpg [MS Word Document - 123.0 KB]
In my experience manning up and wording in people does not really work as you just get ignored, or you get comments such as "if you are so concerned pick it up yourself" - or you find their rubbish ending up in your camp.
Yobbos have thick hides and wording them does not work and there may be ramifications then or later on.
When it does work it is usually with people who are reasonable and have either overlooked the rubbish, didn't realise, usually not deliberate.
It hasn't closed yet, you can still sign it.Quote:
Originally Posted by weeds
See the next post.
Fixed that for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
Thanks. It may or may not do any good, but ground-swells of support to various causes have helped in the past, and generally, numbers count.Quote:
Originally Posted by bob10
Petition is still open for signing.
See direct link here: Save Vic Camping! | Australian 4WD Action
when do (signed) petitions ever change things?Quote:
Originally Posted by brenno
Here is one example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
http://www.gopetition.com/success-st...tre-saved.html
And another from the USA.
The best example is the 2012 backdown of both House and Senate backers of the draconian Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and PROTECT IP Act (PIPA) in the face of a 4.5 million signature petition from Google and the concurrent day of the Internet Blackout.
This was the largest and most successful online protest in history, effectively crushing the political will to push though the bills.
Do a quick search and you will find others.
many part of the US have direct democracy, hence petitions work there.
they do not work in aust.
have a look the nbn petition.
270k signatures.
and nothing happened.