Thread: att all 4wders. urgent petition req action now

Originally Posted by brenno

So, did you sign the petition, or not?

I received the same E-mail, and signed, but not confident it will do any good, Bob

Originally Posted by weeds

i didnt get a chance to sign the petition (do petitions actually change anything)........would have if it helps to keep areas open

re: fees, i don't mind them being jacked up hopefully this will reduce numbers or at least keep them at the current levels

I think it will do jack **** but hey its worth a try I guess

For those who did not get the E-mail, here is the proposal, Bob

National Parks Camping and Accommodation Fees

Victorian National Parks Camping and Accommodation Fees – Regulatory Impact Statement

There are about 680 campgrounds in Victoria's parks and reserves, costing significant public funds to maintain and operate each year. These costs need to be recovered so that Victoria can continue to provide great visitor experiences in nature, with safe, modern campgrounds and facilities.
The current funding model is insufficient to ensure the maintenance and safety of all Victoria's public land campsites. The standard of facilities and maintenance across these sites will begin to suffer unless we make changes.
The Government has prepared a regulatory impact statement (RIS) to assess the impact of introducing a user pays approach to camping fees for all parks and reserves managed by Parks Victoria. This is part of the Government's efforts to make sure that Victorians continue to have access to these beautiful places and that the costs of providing safe, visitor-friendly facilities and services are sustainable and affordable.
These changes will provide longer-term financial sustainability for these special places.
Maintaining the safety, facilities and services at campgrounds makes them more attractive to visitors, which contributes to people's well-being and boosts tourism and economic activity in regional Victoria.
The new approach is expected to be introduced in Victoria's parks and reserves from 1 March 2014.
List of parks subject to proposed news fees from 1 March 2014.
People are invited to provide feedback on the RIS.

Written submissions should be forwarded by 5:00pm Friday 22 November 2013 via either of the following:
Post

Camping and Accommodation Fees
Land Management Policy Division
Department of Environment and Primary Industries
Level 3, 8 Nicholson Street
EAST MELBOURNE VIC 3002
Online

Email: camping.RIS@depi.vic.gov.au
Regulatory Impact Statement

Regulatory Impact Statement [PDF File - 1.4 MB]
Regulatory Impact Statement [MS Word Document - 3.9 MB]
Regulatory Impact Statement executive summary [PDF File - 158.0 KB]
Regulatory Impact Statement executive summary [MS Word Document - 75.0 KB]
Regulatory Impact Statement Fact Sheet [PDF File - 216.9 KB]
Regulatory Impact Statement Fact Sheet [MS Word Document - 123.0 KB]

In my experience manning up and wording in people does not really work as you just get ignored, or you get comments such as "if you are so concerned pick it up yourself" - or you find their rubbish ending up in your camp.

Yobbos have thick hides and wording them does not work and there may be ramifications then or later on.

When it does work it is usually with people who are reasonable and have either overlooked the rubbish, didn't realise, usually not deliberate.

Originally Posted by weeds

i didnt get a chance to sign the petition

It hasn't closed yet, you can still sign it.

See the next post.

Originally Posted by Eevo

Un-signed petition's dont do squat

Fixed that for you.

Originally Posted by bob10

I received the same E-mail, and signed, but not confident it will do any good, Bob

Thanks. It may or may not do any good, but ground-swells of support to various causes have helped in the past, and generally, numbers count.

Petition is still open for signing.

See direct link here: Save Vic Camping! | Australian 4WD Action

Originally Posted by brenno

Fixed that for you.

when do (signed) petitions ever change things?

Originally Posted by Eevo

when do (signed) petitions ever change things?

Here is one example.
http://www.gopetition.com/success-st...tre-saved.html

And another from the USA.
The best example is the 2012 backdown of both House and Senate backers of the draconian Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and PROTECT IP Act (PIPA) in the face of a 4.5 million signature petition from Google and the concurrent day of the Internet Blackout.

This was the largest and most successful online protest in history, effectively crushing the political will to push though the bills.


Do a quick search and you will find others.