Waking up Australia to compassion.

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Just been re-reading this thread. I missed this delightful statistic.
I'm not sure you realise but, there was an election here recently. Guess which party won? That's right, the one with the "Turn back the boats" policy.
What does the Neilsen poll (if it is correct) tell me? The government are going to collect a lot of fines from people who didn't vote.
What do the politicians constantly remind us? The only poll that counts is the one on election day.

Oh, and my take on the article referred to in the first post, the author was publishing under a pseudonym. We cannot confirm whether the story is factual or a complete work of fiction, like, The Guardian hasn't published fictional articles before.

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The election does not have nothing to do with the issue and if it is then allow me to remind you that the coalition did not have the majority of the votes it have the majority of seats because the distribution of them.
There were about 800.000 votes more to the other parties that for the coalition.

Mandate my foot!
Now back to the topic.............

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Originally Posted by gusthedog

Stean,

Firstly I am not labelling all racists, bigots etc. At no stage did I direct that title to you. I said that I was alarmed at the amount of racist language and lack of compassion shown by many AULRO members. If you choose to include yourself in that group that's up to you.

Secondly, why do i have to prove my convictions in the extreme if they differ to yours. That would be as ridiculous me saying "As you said you love and want to protect your family I assume you have chosen to become a federal politician so you can make a difference, and are a high ranking member of the military and ...." Just because I believe that we should treat people fairly does not mean I dismiss others opinions. Where others opinions are clearly racist I am morally bound to argue the opposite.

I agree that many people are putting their points across well but there are many who don't show compassion, are obviously scared and racist. I don't see why you think I should have all the answers. I don't. I believe that just simply trying to solve the boat people issue is a bandaid solution as I have stated a number of times on this thread. Again, if you choose only to read sections of my posts, call me unpatriotic and say that I slander all, that is your prerogative and interpretation.

Your sweeping statements such as "There is so much more to this than you have obviously ever considered" are the problem here. You have no idea about me or what I have considered and you keep drawing conclusions based on your interpretation of what I have written.

Apologies to those that may have found my comments about racism and bigotry confronting but I find both in comments throughout this thread. Again, that's my interpretation.

We need to look at solving the underlying issues, not focus on people turning up here by boat. And personally attacking people that don't have a parallel opinion to yours is not going to solve a damn thing.

And we ain't gonna solve it all on a car forum.

Laters.

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Gawd, and here I was thinking I had written clearly and concisely. I fear you have missed the points I was making, pretty much all of them.

I will try one last time just on one small point. A sweeping statement or generalisation is by definition aimed at a group of people, usually a very large group. It is often an assumption made about that group, like for example "they are racists and bigots" that is inaccurate.

My statements directed to you are thus not sweeping and hardly the problem here as you suggest.

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Originally Posted by Chucaro

The election does not have nothing to do with the issue and if it is then allow me to remind you that the coalition did not have the majority of the votes it have the majority of seats because the distribution of them.
There were about 800.000 votes more to the other parties that for the coalition.

Mandate my foot!
Now back to the topic.............

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Lets not get into the minutiae.
Mr. Letspushtheboatsaway is in.
Mr. Letthemallin is not.

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Lets not get into the minutiae.
Mr. Letspushtheboatsaway is in.
Mr. Letshavenobarriers is not.

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Mick I just mentioned it because is a reflection of what the people want and their level of compassion.
It was and it is not intended as a political argument.
But above all I do not think that a government is in place just because a single issue.
Cheers

Where is the Soapbox when you need it :o

GAWD...How dumb am I...I thought turning back the boats was about trying to save the loss of life at sea....Lucky I learnt to read after I left school and became a member of AULRO, otherwise I would still believe it was so.

No wonder I got kicked out of school and ended up a lowly fisherman.:p


Cheers Ean

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Originally Posted by garrycol

Where is the Soapbox when you need it :o

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It have been washed due to to much sud on it :D

General Chat has not become the defacto Soapbox.

Lets bring Religion and Politics back too :o. Juliar has been replaced with Tonyliar. :wasntme:

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Originally Posted by garrycol

General Chat has not become the defacto Soapbox.

Lets bring Religion and Politics back too :o. Juliar has been replaced with Tonyliar. :wasntme:

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Garry, you are pushing Inc patience :D

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Originally Posted by garrycol

General Chat has not become the defacto Soapbox.

Lets bring Religion and Politics back too :o. Juliar has been replaced with Tonyliar. :wasntme:

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Sorry, can't do that.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread...75#post1822975

I draw your attention to Conditions 5a and 5b.

Mind you , I like a bit of politics and religion biffo. Care to start a tread on Whirlpool?