Waking up Australia to compassion.

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

I always thought that was how Queenslanders ended their sentences.

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No way mate!
Normally good behaviour then parole ;)

their own country doesnt want them
we dont want them
noone wants them

you think they would get the hint

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Originally Posted by JamesH

So to answer the OP's original point; a valid one, politely put, my answer is NO. I do not see a role for compassion in the illegal entry issue.

I'll go further, I claim compassion, if that's what you call Rudd's legacy after the disastrous change in policy, is counterproductive and has increased human misery not lessened it.

Who we take from the camps, how many, and what we do for them when they get, compassion has a place. But in illegal arrivals absolutely not. And I'll claim the high moral ground too for what it's worth.

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Agree, particularly your third paragraph,....1000%.
People need to REALLY be able to discriminate as to what is a GENUINE "Asylum Seeker", & an "Illegal Immigrant".
Cheers, Pickles.

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

I always thought that was how Queenslanders ended their sentences.

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So, what do you have against Canadians, EH ? Bob


eh
An interjection or prompt spoken by Canadians.
Equivalent to the American "huh?" or "right?"
Usually used to prompt a person to respond to what was said. or to indicate a lack of understanding

Now, if you had said ' but', closer to the mark, eh?

I have a lot of respect for some of the immigrants that I have worked for in the past, they have included Albanian, British, Italian, Spanish and Polish. They are getting on with their lives here in Australia and prospering.

One chap I worked for, in the early 70's, arrived in the Hobart airport from Poland, He had literary, two bob in his pocket and his battered suitcase.
He now owns a million dollar security business, has a large family who have some excellent academic achievements and he has a home to be proud of.

On the other hand, there is a well known local critic of the boat people that lives at Bridgewater, he lives in a low rent housing department home on a disability pension, he hasn't got two bob to rub together but still can play the pokies and sponges rides into town. He is a member of a fifth generation Australian family.

These recent immigrant hopefuls now arriving in Australia, are prepare to get off their posterior's to make the effort to come half way around the world and under a lot of duress in the time it takes to get here.
They are not of the mind set that are expecting handouts, if we are spoiling that spark of wanting to achieve, by making them not to wan't for anything when they get here, then isn't that the wrong way for our authorities to go?

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Originally Posted by wrinklearthur

This thread isn't about political persuasions, it is about a fair go for our fellow humans and the injustice we are allowing to be inflicted on people who have come halfway across the world, seeking safety within Australia.

Our immediate past and present Government have responded to the wishes of the people of our land and the popular idea that the so called illegal immigrants are only here to grab our prosperity and 'blow us all up' .

My concern is that as a nation we are not listening carefully enough to those individual stories.
Their stories are of their horror, hardships and the circumstances that have forced them from their families and homelands. There is a story printed in 'The Guardian' theguardian.com, Thursday 21 November 2013 14.01 AEST , that I wish you can find the time to read.

Ref; My experience as a nurse on Christmas Island changed the core of my being | Emma Hunter | Comment is free | theguardian.com

The reasons that some come here, isn't as true as the legitimate refugee, but to treat all of them the same is so wrong.
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Thanks for sharing that Wrinklearthur. I agree that Australians do need to be more compassionate in their approach to people seeking asylum. I began reading the varied responses to your original post but gave up due to the amazing bigotry, zealotry and racism shown by the majority of responses. I am dumbfounded by the outright hatred and lack of humility shown by AULRO members. Wake up to yourself people. I often get upset by the lack of humility on the forum and my wife always says, you can't change peoples minds on a forum on the net. I guess she's right. But to the haters out there - you suck big time and karma is a bitch. I hope yours is coming.

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Originally Posted by bob10

So, what do you have against Canadians, EH ? Bob

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Canadians: Americans with attitude.

Seriously, my family has friends in Canada. Mainly in the south of Ontario. I have a bed there if I ever decided to visit. I have a Canadian flag hanging in my kitchen. It's been there for twenty years. It hung in the kitchen of the house I had before this one.
I support the Blue Jays baseball team. I have a Blue Jays T-shirt somewhere.

What have I got against Canadians you ask?

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Canadians: Americans with attitude.

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I would have said Americans with a sense of humour, & not full of themselves, but glad I didn't, not politically correct, eh, but. Bob

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Originally Posted by gusthedog

Thanks for sharing that Wrinklearthur. I agree that Australians do need to be more compassionate in their approach to people seeking asylum. I began reading the varied responses to your original post but gave up due to the amazing bigotry, zealotry and racism shown by the majority of responses. I am dumbfounded by the outright hatred and lack of humility shown by AULRO members. Wake up to yourself people. I often get upset by the lack of humility on the forum and my wife always says, you can't change peoples minds on a forum on the net. I guess she's right. But to the haters out there - you suck big time and karma is a bitch. I hope yours is coming.

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Every one here is entitled to their own opinion. What makes you think yours is any more correct than any one else's. Lucky people with opinions such as mine do not post what we really feel about the bleeding hearts isn't it. Then again the software would most likely not let me say that.
And this has nothing to do with racism, every person, no matter what race is ok with me. The problem is with queue jumpers and people that come to Australia and have no intention of fitting in to our society, and demand we conform to their beliefs.

IMHO part of the problem that we have in Australia is the multiculturalism policy.
Let me explain, before and after the 1st and 2nd war thousands of immigrants when to Argentina, Chile, south of Brasil and Uruguay.
The majority of these immigrants were people well educated and in many cases with money behind to start a new life in another country.
Uruguay have also many immigrants from east Europe.
If the person have no passport, visa or come as a refugee because he ask for protection in one of the embassies he was not able to land and have to return in the same ship that he come.
Not many come like this because they were unable to get into the ships without documentation.
None of the countries have a multiculturalism policy, the rule was "we are like this, respect it or simple leave.
There were no financial assistance in a way of paying for the trip for people to come, no hostels, no Spanish classes for those that do not speak the language, not unemployment benefits in another words the person know about the risks before selecting to immigrate to Uruguay.
Immigrants adapted very well, there never was a group of immigrants that have try to impose their way of living or ideologies. People integrated well.
The problem that we have here is that the new comers have roof on their heads, money to make a start, English classes, unemployment money, etc etc.
The multiculturalism created divisions and not integration and in some cases some of them try to impose their ideologies on us.
I have arrived to the conclusion that many of these new comers take for granted the good will of the Australians and abuse it.
Perhaps I am wrong?