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  1. 25th November 2013, 07:35 PM #1
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    BFG tyres trap for young players

    Hi,

    The week before last, I had fours wheels on the 130 coated, and treated them to new BFG tyres and tubes.

    Imagine my surprise a few days later to get a flat tyre on the expressway to Newcastle in the rain....... Not happy at all.

    Even less so when I noticed another tyre rapidly deflating in the hotel carpark. Grrrhg.

    Quick call to the supplier, a chain, stating my disbelief in coincidence. I squeezed two flats into the boot of my offsides rental car, and visited the local outlet for the chain, and gave the story ( and did say I would be just as happy if it was two tek screws).

    Anyway, the problem was that some BFG tyres have a little label inside. Which is no problem on tubeless rims, but if there is a tube, it rubs, and as I found out, holes the tube. The solution is for the tyre fitter to buff the label out if tubes are used.

    Best of all, the Newcastle outlet did not charge me for the replacement tubes, and invited me back the next day to check the other tyres! And the one that went down on the expressway was not damaged at all.

    Worst part was finding out that two inflated tyres are way harder to squeeze into a boot than two flats. Ha ha. And even harder to get out again.

    The supplier said it is only BFG, and only some tyres.

    Cheers,

    Gumnut
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  2. 25th November 2013, 08:31 PM #2
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    Glad to hear it worked out, I had it happen with a set of Coopers on a Series 3 and a set of Eldrado tyres on the County.

    Once the labels were removed from the inside no more flats

    I am going to have to check the BFG's I bought for the Defender as I had them put on 130 rims with tubes.


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  3. 25th November 2013, 08:38 PM #3
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    Similar problem happened to Incisor and I going to Cooma in his 110 Defender H/top in 2008,new Steel Treks,with tubes, got the first flat 1/2klm before Cooma,the second at night in rain on Newcastle expressway on the way back to Qld,put the used spare on and no more problemos they had little stickers inside them
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  4. 25th November 2013, 08:41 PM #4
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    Yep, happened to me too with BFG MT's, all four went down at various intervals up to a year. Get them to check the other tyres too. Plus there is often more than one of those little quality control stickers per tyre!
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  5. 25th November 2013, 08:41 PM #5
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    What is the rule with tubes in tubeless rims?
    I'm not sure of a few things, namely whether 130 rims are tubeless ( I have Wolf rims & they are tubeless)
    I was under the impression that tubes in tubeless rims was frowned upon by the tyre trade, but stand to be corrected.
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  6. 25th November 2013, 08:55 PM #6
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    This is an age old problem that also affects old RRCs with tube rims.
    Apparently it is important to use thick tubes also as most tubes nowadays are thin garbage. AFAIR there are some made by Continental or other European makes that are high quality.
    Sort of reminds you of bankers who change generations and the youngies have no recollection and make the same mistakes over and over.
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  7. 25th November 2013, 09:08 PM #7
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    I was told that the tyre people of old used to put French chalk between the tube and the tyre to reduce friction and stop the tube sticking to tyres. Seems that I was fairly right.Hmm found this site, some good info on tyres and tubes.FAQs
    Cheers Hall
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  8. 25th November 2013, 09:19 PM #8
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    Three issues.
    1. Most tyres these days are made to be used tubeless. They usually have "Tubeless" printed on the wall, this is not to say that they are safe to use without tubes it is to say that the inside is rough, not smooth like tubed tyre cases are made.
    2. The sticker on the inside causes additional heat as the tube moves within the case.
    3. It is a good rule to only use Michelin or Bridgestone tubes.

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  9. 25th November 2013, 10:12 PM #9
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    Hi DeeJay,

    The bog standard 130 rims as fitted in 1995 do not have a retaining bead, unlike wolf, 110, disco etc.

    On advice from one tyre place, I ran without tubes for a fair few years, until one day, it all went bad. Fortunately not on the highway, unfortunately in a creek. In Canberra, in winter.

    The next tyre place laid an egg, and said no no no no, those rims need tubes, and anyone who tells you otherwise knows nowt. Or something like that. Sure enough, the rims are different.

    Anyway, it makes for fun when I get one of my many flats, they patch the tyre to stop wires working through, and patch the tube to keep the air in.

    So now I am wondering if the patches can work through like the pesky labels?

    Cheers,

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