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    Hawaii, Dec 7 1941

    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Hi Bob my wife and I visited the memorial over the USS ARIZONA ,some years ago , It's truly both moving and memorable place , you could never describe It to anyone . The only way would be to go there ..

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    Went there in the mid eighties. Worth a stop over on the way to North America.

    Before you go out to the memorial they show you a film. After this the guide asked if anyone in the audience would like to say where they were and what they were doing on the day. Fairly bold move as 90% of the people were from Japan.

    Only one who answered was another Australian who was in the middle east at the time. When heard about the attack did not think it was important as was on the other side of the world and he already had a war to fight where he was.

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    On 4th August 1914, a bugle was blown in Flanders, France.
    on 7th December 1941 th US heard it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3toes View Post
    Went there in the mid eighties. Worth a stop over on the way to North America.

    Before you go out to the memorial they show you a film. After this the guide asked if anyone in the audience would like to say where they were and what they were doing on the day. Fairly bold move as 90% of the people were from Japan.

    Only one who answered was another Australian who was in the middle east at the time. When heard about the attack did not think it was important as was on the other side of the world and he already had a war to fight where he was.

    Brilliant, subtle, but brilliant. The Americans probably did not get it. Bob
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimr1 View Post
    Hi Bob my wife and I visited the memorial over the USS ARIZONA ,some years ago , It's truly both moving and memorable place , you could never describe It to anyone . The only way would be to go there ..

    I agree, and the oil still drifting to the surface? You can believe the ship is still bleeding. Bob
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Some photos, a couple I have not seen, Bob




    Slideshow: Remembering Pearl Harbor


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    Historical photographs depict the destruction of the American fleet at Pearl Harbor, on the island of Oahu, Hawaii, on Dec. 7, 1941.

    Launch slideshow




    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    I recently read a biography of the science fiction author Robert Heinlein. He started a career as a naval officer after graduating from Annapolis in 1929, but had a medical discharge (T in 1934. He served on board the USS Lexington, and during this service was involved in several exercises in the Hawaii area. One of these had Japanese observers on board, an attempt to impress the Japanese with the strength of the USN. The Captain of the Lexington demonstrated how easy it was to get into attack range of Pearl Harbour and launch a mock attack on the base. This lost him his command, and he captained a desk for the rest of his career! (Not because he was revealing state secrets, but because he contravened regulations by observing radio silence and switching off navigation and deck lights in peacetime.)

    Whether this acted as a suggestion to the Japanese nearly a decade later is doubtful, but certainly it did not alert the USN to the danger of an attack - in the 1930s most naval officers did not take aircraft carriers seriously; the important ships had sixteen inch guns. In a sense the attack on Pearl Harbour may have been a decisive influence on the outcome of the war - the carrier fleet was at sea, so was undamaged, but the battle fleet was largely destroyed, so that the USN was forced to make a more rapid change to air tactics in the Pacific than would otherwise have happened.

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