Thread: Fireworks

Originally Posted by FFR

On the other hand, all these prohibitions have brought us better health care, a better education system and better and affordable housing.

I can't see how banning fireworks gives us a better education system or cheaper housing.

Originally Posted by Mr Whippy

I can't see how banning fireworks gives us a better education system or cheaper housing.

Hi Dave,

That's the point of my post. We are sacrificing lots of our liberties and rights... and, what do we get in exchange ? which areas in our lives are dramatically improving ? more TV channels ? faster cars ? bigger plasma TVs ?

The problem is, I think, not in the fireworks. The problem is that someone decides to wake up the neighbours at 2 AM for fun. A fireworks ban is not the solution for an anti-social behaviour, it is not going to transform an idiot into a normal person.

Originally Posted by FFR

Hi Dave,

That's the point of my post. We are sacrificing lots of our liberties and rights... and, what do we get in exchange ? which areas in our lives are dramatically improving ? more TV channels ? faster cars ? bigger plasma TVs ?

The problem is, I think, not in the fireworks. The problem is that someone decides to wake up the neighbours at 2 AM for fun. A fireworks ban is not the solution for an anti-social behaviour, it is not going to transform an idiot into a normal person.

BTW, I consider that, being the Australian houses tipically surrounded by so much fuel (trees, weeds, even more trees) playing with sparks around is not a wise idea...

Originally Posted by FFR

I went to Ikea (Canary Islands) shortly after the 9/11 and they had grinded down the sharp edge of all knifes on display, due to "safety".

On the other hand, all these prohibitions have brought us better health care, a better education system and better and affordable housing.

Well actually, in relation to health care, the almost complete lack of fireworks in NSW has reduced the trauma caused by fireworks incidents, saving the healthcare system thousands if not millions of dollars in the treatment of firework related injury and permanent disibility frequently caused by loss of eyes, hearing, fingers and limbs.

So while it is a loss of a liberty it is also benefit to the community.

Now if we had to pay for our own health care and there was no social security, as in the USA, then you are free to blow your own hands off and pay for the treatment if you choose.

I know which place I would rather live in. And yes as a kid we did have fireworks and one of the kids at the scout group lost an eye when a rocket landed in a box of other fireworks at the same time this kid was getting another one and that was the only reason the lid was off.

Originally Posted by Chops

I'm a bit over it all really.

We have had kids running around letting off fireworks during the past couple of weeks, very annoying to say the least. Of course they seem to do this at the most inappropriate times,, like two in the morning . You never get to see it,,, just hear it.
Most dogs seem to hate this, and go off tap like there's no tomorrow. So then of course, the neighbours not only have to put up with the fireworks, they then have to put up with a heap of dogs barking. I lose even more sleep, as I try to calm our dog down,, not much I can do about any of the others though.
Its been a hectic few weeks, sleep wise

To top it all off, tonight, somewhere not too far from us, someone must have organised/sanctioned a major fireworks show. They've been going off now for almost a half an hour. Dogs going ballistic yet again
I cant believe that this has not been advertised (that I know of anyway). Everybody loves to watch them when they're done right. Could have even given me a chance to enlighten the dog as to what its all about.
So once again, we don't get to see it, but the dogs still got to be calmed down,,,, At least its early.

Congratulations!
You are now officially OLD.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Well actually, in relation to health care, the almost complete lack of fireworks in NSW has reduced the trauma caused by fireworks incidents, saving the healthcare system thousands if not millions of dollars in the treatment of firework related injury and permanent disibility frequently caused by loss of eyes, hearing, fingers and limbs.

So while it is a loss of a liberty it is also benefit to the community.

Now if we had to pay for our own health care and there was no social security, as in the USA, then you are free to blow your own hands off and pay for the treatment if you choose.

I know which place I would rather live in. And yes as a kid we did have fireworks and one of the kids at the scout group lost an eye when a rocket landed in a box of other fireworks at the same time this kid was getting another one and that was the only reason the lid was off.

I see your point and, in fact, I would say that it is how I have find that a great number of Australians think (I'm a visitor here).

However, I think that trying to eliminate risk after risk creating a certain legislation on that regard, creates a society reluctant to assume any degree of exposure to new ventures, "just in case" or, even worse, to accept as legitimate new rules against practices perceived as "unsafe".

For example: it is very easy to argue against DIY maintenance in your landy. Some people die every year on their sheds, and some other might (and this is where the _fear factor_ is introduced) die because of dodgy repairs on brakes and steering. Remember the guy with the yellow 110 in the UK who had an accident where three of his kids died ? The press said things like "that land rover was like a Frankenstein, made of parts taken from other cars".


As a side note, regarding your comparison between here and the USA in relation to health cover, I have to tell you that we 457 people are not covered by Medicare in any way or form. In fact, in NSW the kids of 457 people don't have the right to receive free education.

cheers, Carlos

I can see this thread wandering way off from this point......bring back cracker night. Love John Williamsons song.....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD0M4ZiD8eE]John Williamson - Welcome To My Campfire Part 6 of 9 - YouTube[/ame]

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Why?
Brilliant add.

Too many muslims in the country