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    Builders advice required - extension.

    At some stage in the future, I want to put an extra room on my house - no biggy, I have worked with Builders heaps, and can do all the work myself. What I don't know and haven't done before is work out what I need to keep everything legal and the Council happy.

    Are there any Builders in my area - Sunbury, Vic that would want to look over what I want and advise me on a few things? I'm starting to sketch up a few things now. There are no easements on the block so no need to worry about those sort of things, more like what I can get away with and still keep it legal. I can slap up something that would do the job, look good and be structurally sound, but that's all for nothing if I miss something basic in the regulations.

    I don't want to go to the expense of tying in the roof with the existing one - I would like to do a skillion roof if possible - I think I have the height required to get away with this, and likewise I don't want to pour a slab, but use stumps and bearers for the floor - all things I can do easily myself.

    This will be a long term budget build as funds become available, I will be doing all the work myself apart from the Plumbing, but a mate will be sorting that for me, so I want to keep the structure as basic as possible and still meet required standards.

    Ideally I would like to pay for the consult by way of Electrical services paid in kind, either of the 240 volt variety (I'm a fully quallifed sparky with contractors licence) or assistance with any Land Rover wiring they may need. Just remember I'm old and fat and have a dodgy knee, so climbing through roofs and under floors is not something I do anymore...

    Any advise anyone wants to pitch in with here will also be greatly appreciated.

    Cheers - Gav.
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    The other option is to speak to a private certifier. Rarely these days do we deal directly with council. Yes things still need to meet their regs and be put through them. The certifiers are basicly pros that do that for a living. They are clued up on all the basic, latest rules etc. You could go owner builder also with one of these.

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    Things either council or certifiers will be looking at in your situation:

    Site coverage ( amount of under roof area vs land area)
    Proximity to boundry (how close)
    Height of new addition( both max and gutter line)
    Termite mitigation (mechanical barriers, visual, treated timber etc)
    Structural requirements (footings, loadbearing, bracing, tie down)
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    Thanks - so to clarify that, if I was an owner builder, and I employed the services of a private certifier, then they could guide me, and when the time came issue the certificate if occupancy?

    They would deal with the council guff and I just have to worry about keeping the one person happy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by uninformed View Post
    Things either council or certifiers will be looking at in your situation:

    Site coverage ( amount of under roof area vs land area) Not an issue - the house was barely big enough to meet minimum requirements when I built it.
    Proximity to boundry (how close)Plenty of room there too - my back yard is big and I wouldn't get within 3 metres to the back fence, and miles from either side - the houses both sides of me go further back than I'm planning
    Height of new addition( both max and gutter line) One of the first things I need to know.
    Termite mitigation (mechanical barriers, visual, treated timber etc)I have the original document about this when we built, so know the minimum requirements here - unless they change over time???
    Structural requirements (footings, loadbearing, bracing, tie down) These are my biggest concerns - and what I need to know about the most.
    Electrical Me - Easy
    Plumbing My mate - Easy
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    Quote Originally Posted by bacicat View Post
    Thanks - so to clarify that, if I was an owner builder, and I employed the services of a private certifier, then they could guide me, and when the time came issue the certificate if occupancy?

    They would deal with the council guff and I just have to worry about keeping the one person happy?
    Id say so, but remember im in QLD and you are in Vic. Could be some differences knowing this silly bloody country . As owner builder you would still have to apply for that licence. Not sure what that entails? You will still need building insurance, as a builder would have to have on the job, which you would be paying for anyway.

    I would google or yellow pages some local certifiers in your area and give a call. get the whats what from the horses mouth.

    Regarding timber, generally the timber yard should be able to run the numbers on what sizing you need for each memeber.

    Bearers for example: Single span or continous? span? floor joist spacing, floor type, floor size (length x width) wall constrcution? cladding (internal and external) roof design? roof construction? roof covering? ceiling lining? They will ask most of those and punch the numbers into the computer. They should be able to give you options from HWD, treated pine and engineered timbers. Or you could go steel ( that would be a structural engineer and you would pay for that)

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    Here is a quick example: I built a big outdoor entertaining area for a mate, attached to his existing house. I asked if he wanted it certified/through council? he said nope, he would do it down the track. I made sure all my work was up to the current code. Not long into it (framing roof) the neighbours dobbed him in and the council sent him a letter saying "err, what you doing then son" He hired a private certifier. Things he required to meet needs:

    Site survey: this to provide a true block size and location of boundaries, along with the size and location of existing house and new entertaining/roof area.

    Draftsman: to draw up basic plans of site, house and new entertaining/roof area, in plan and elevation.

    Engineer: to go through all new work done (lucky I had taken photos of all my work and could prove things like reo in piers, tie down, bracing etc).

    The only issue he has was his site coverage. All work was approved and up to scratch, he ended up having to get the "town planner to look over and approve because of his site coverage (he was on a small block)

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    I am a member here:
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    Same as us LR nutters but they be builder/renovator nutters!
    Helpful bunch of chappies too.

    Ralph

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph1Malph View Post
    I am a member here:
    Renovate Forums - Home

    Same as us LR nutters but they be builder/renovator nutters!
    Helpful bunch of chappies too.

    Ralph
    Great site - thanks, I've signed up, and there is plenty of reading to be done.
    If you need to contact me please email homestarrunnerau@gmail.com - thanks - Gav.

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    I'm a member there too, from when we were looking at buying a plot and self managing a build on it. As you say Gav, huge amount of info on there.

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