My troubles with the law continues

Yes but there is no chance you'd actually get costs and absolutely no chance (not provided for in law) to get "paid" for your own time.

Who can afford the time off work to contest a traffic fine? That's what they rely on.

I presume they sent a notice to everyone with a variation of that number plate - a few probably paid so for them it was a WIN !

A list of trouble makers needs to be compiled. I'll start, in descending order.

Mick Marsh
Vled Tepes


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Originally Posted by VladTepes

Who can afford the time off work to contest a traffic fine? That's what they rely on.

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I am in the process of doing exactly that at the moment.

I was wrongly issued with a fine for failing to stop at a stop sign. Less than $500 for the fine. I estimate that I am now up to about $2000 in expenses (no lawyers involved) and I still have to attend a pre trial conference and possibly a trial as well.

I refuse to cave on the issue as I am 100% right.

which is lucky for you that you can afford to do it - many people can't.

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Originally Posted by VladTepes

which is lucky for you that you can afford to do it - many people can't.

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I don't feel lucky.
I feel royally ****ed off that I have had to spend so much time, effort and money to take it this far and at the moment there isn't an end in sight.
Thus far I have dealt with moron Police, moron expiation department officials, moron prosecution department officials and an uninterested magistrate.
I still have prosecution and Police to deal with, then possibly Police, prosecution and magistrate.
It is a bloody disgrace that a 100% innocent person should have to jump through hoop after hoop with no hope of compensation all because the original Copper was too lazy to do his job correctly, then too bloody minded to admit his mistake.

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Originally Posted by bacicat

Not so - you can have a cracked windscreen and chips up to 16mm as long as they are not in the area cleared by the wipers. Oil leaks are acceptable as long as nothing is dripping onto the road - the underside of the car can be covered in crud from an oil weep and still be roadworthy.

If you ever get one done, take a copy of the guidelines in with you - Vicroads - Roadworthy Requirements and ask the tester to point out exactly where an item fails. You would be surprised at how often they can't and they will remove it from the list. If they argue the point, tell the, you will seek a resolution through Vicroads - most of them will cave in when told this.

Too many people just take the testers word for gospel, even though it may not be a legitimate item they are failing. If it isn't on that list I've attached a link to, then they can't pick on it.:)

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Qld. Transport laid down the law on oil leaks a few years ago. An oil leak is an oil leak and the vehicle with one is not roadworthy. This came about as a result of representations from motor cycle groups. They were getting a bit fed up with being picked on and said to the authorities to have a good look at problems caused for motor cyclists by other road users.

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Originally Posted by BigJon

I don't feel lucky.
I feel royally ****ed off that I have had to spend so much time, effort and money to take it this far and at the moment there isn't an end in sight.
Thus far I have dealt with moron Police, moron expiation department officials, moron prosecution department officials and an uninterested magistrate.
I still have prosecution and Police to deal with, then possibly Police, prosecution and magistrate.
It is a bloody disgrace that a 100% innocent person should have to jump through hoop after hoop with no hope of compensation all because the original Copper was too lazy to do his job correctly, then too bloody minded to admit his mistake.

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Today I have rung the department of prosecutions at least 6 times to try to talk to somebody about my case. Last year I was told I would receive the "evidence" that the police have against me prior to my "pre trial conference" which is scheduled for next week.

I left messages for a return phone call and was told to ring back in 15 minutes, etc every time. I just got off the phone from my last attempt and the person with my file has gone home.

I am definitely in the wrong industry. I need a cushy government job where I can work in A/C comfort, knock off early and not even make a pretense of doing my job.

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Originally Posted by BigJon

I need a cushy government job where I can work in A/C comfort, knock off early and not even make a pretense of doing my job.

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You can have mine !

A/C yep.
Knock off early? Hmm not today, or yesteray or day before, or....
Oh and I have to make a pretense... :lol:
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Originally Posted by VladTepes

Yes but there is no chance you'd actually get costs and absolutely no chance (not provided for in law) to get "paid" for your own time.

Who can afford the time off work to contest a traffic fine? That's what they rely on.

I presume they sent a notice to everyone with a variation of that number plate - a few probably paid so for them it was a WIN !

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I just read in our local paper Jan 14 2014 and I QUOTE ..Knox council racked up thousands of dollars in city lawyer's fees to prosecute a father of two over a $141 parking fine -and lost . A magistrate dismissed the case and awarded costs to the dad , who conducted his own defense against the high -powered legal eagles

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I got a speeding camera fine last year, and I knew it wasn't me - so I rang them.

That's not me I don't have an ornage jacket !
- We don't know that sir, that's not a basis to withdraw an infringement notice.

That's not me I wasn't anywhere near the Logan motorway that day.
- Can you prove that?
Can I prove I wasn't somewhere? Umm, no.
- Well we can't withdraw it on that basis.

The number plate is obscured - its impossible to read the last digit so it could be any number of plates not just mine.
- Our investigations indicate that it matches your bike.

Ah well, you see, the bike in the photo isn't mine.
- What?
Yep, it's someone else's bike. Definitely not mine.
- How can you tell?
(What the? ) Well I have a single exhaust that bike has twin exhausts, (and a few other points)
- We'll need you to send us evidence of that...

So then I had to waste my time scanning the infringemetn notice, taking photos of my bike and pointing to the diffferences between the two and email them.

Took 3 more weeks and the notice was withdrawn. Guilty until proven innocent.

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I had a similar experience.
Whilst at a RBT stop, I was taken aside.
"Do you have a reason for diving an unregistered vehicle?"
"It is registered."
"No it isn't"
"It has a current label on the windscreen."
"My computer says it is unregistered."
"Ever thought your computer might not be up to date?"
"Computers don't get it wrong."
At this point in time I knew I was dealing with a fool. I work with computers and know just how wrong they can get it. "Just give me the fine. I'll see you in court."
After the coppers had left, I drove the car home. I ended up sending a copy of the receipt and infringement notice to Snr Sgt Richie at the traffic infringements office with a note "I'll see you in court." I got a letter back "We will not be pursuing this matter any further." No apology. I'm still as guilty as sin and will not get my day in court.