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    You must be fairly old if you were taught in school that Cook was the first European to discover Australia.

    It has been fairly common knowledge and has certainly been taught in schools for quite a few years, that other explorers found the western and northern parts of Australia long before 1770.

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    Lol yer feeling old. 43 young. No mention of any one else. City schools or country did them both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goenin View Post
    Speaking of history. Well it now has to be written all over.
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    The Portuguese kept all information about their exploration and trading activities a state secret, with the death penalty for anyone who transmitted any information to outsiders (if they were caught - some information did leak, but we don't know what didn't). As part of this policy, it was a legal requirement that all copies of relevant documents and maps be kept in the royal archives in Lisbon.

    This building and all its contents were totally destroyed in the Lisbon earthquake in 1755, meaning that it is unlikely that there will ever be any realistic possibility of rewriting history. Small bits of tantalising information such as this kangaroo? picture may suggest possibilities, but nothing more is likely.

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    Oh no quite the different. The guy who investigates these situations said there is loads of information coming out of the wood work making his job easier.
    He was on 3AW the other day. Very interesting.

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    Tonight at 8:35 on SBS1 there is a chance to learn a bit about Burke or at least see some of the country he traveled through.

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    History should be taught in such a way that the students are left with a desire to learn more, in their own time. In many cases in our history, truth is indeed stranger than fiction. Bob


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    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Here is a good place to start, the only first hand description & analysis of the attack on the Eureka Stockade, and the events that preceded & followed it, Bob


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    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    A syllabus is only a guideline - a good teacher brings it to life.
    And that's half the problem. When I finished school twenty odd years ago, teaching was the course you did if you couldn't get into anything else.

    Having said that, there are some brilliant teachers out there. But some duds too.


    And don't get me started on kids not having to learn times tables.

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    Another downside to not learning history at school these days is you get a younger person on Hot Seat playing for $250k and cant can,t answer a simple Aus History question . What a bummer .

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    Quote Originally Posted by stallie View Post
    And that's half the problem. When I finished school twenty odd years ago, teaching was the course you did if you couldn't get into anything else.

    Having said that, there are some brilliant teachers out there. But some duds too.


    And don't get me started on kids not having to learn times tables.
    I don't think it is only half the problem. Twenty or more years ago I was responsible for hiring graduates in my area for a major company, and so had a lot of contact witrh universities. I was astounded that the entrance requirements for Education were the rock bottom lowest.

    As I had already found from an analysis of our staff performance that the best predictor of performance was the HSC (or equivalent) score rather than the tertiary education they had, this made it clear to me that we are setting up to have a teaching system staffed with underperformers.

    I don't think that things have changed significantly.

    However, despite this theres are some good teachers, as I have found following my children and grandchildren's education.

    How did we get in this situation?

    When I went to University (and earlier) the only way most people could afford university was on a scholarship. I managed to get a Commonwealth scholarship, but I know several of my peers who, while they qualified for one of these, could not accept it, as these had a very stringent means test on the living allowance, and their parents could (or would) not support them for another three or four years. But a Teachers scholarship paid a living allowance with no strings. And these teachers scholarships required you to teach for (I think) four years after you finished. By this time the new teacher could well be on a set career and would stay.

    With the change to free tertiary education and the youth allowance in the seventies, there was no incentive to do teaching. Add to this the job steadily becoming less attractive as pay stagnated and discipline worsened, even with the decrease in demand for teachers as the baby boomers left school, the entry score for teaching had to be steadily lowered. As many teachers are now approaching retiring, the situation is getting worse.

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