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    Which Australian Explorer?

    In another thread there seemed to be a reasonable level of consensus that Australian school students should learn something of the contribution made by Australian explorers.

    There might be a lot less consensus about which ones should be studied.

    Should they study the well known, but incompetent ones like Burke or should they learn about the skillful ones like Howitt, who not only found King, the sole survivor of Burke's dash north, but in doing so contributed much more than Burke to our understanding of the geography and botany of the area as well as the culture of the people who inhabited the region?

    Should WA students learn about Leichhardt, who might have got as far as WA before he disappeared or should they focus on the valuable contribution of the Gregory brothers or Forrest?

    Here is a chance for you to mount a case for your favourite explorer.

    I'll tell you mine if anyone else thinks this is a discussion worth having.

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    Maybe not explorers as such, but I reckon they could base much of the Aussie history curriculum on the writings of Ion Idriess-covering both Australiana history as well as Boer war and World War 1 history.
    Flynn, Kidman, some small time boundary rider named Charles Rasp and so on. Even Lasseter for a bit of interesting speculative learning.

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    There's a lot of history associated with 'The Last of the Australian Explorers' - aka Len Beadell.
    Roger


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    For me it's Giles, Shackleton and Len Beadell with a very honourable mention for Alfred Gibson and Frank Hann.

    Deano

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    The leyland brothers

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    Since the phrase 'last explorer" (or something like) that has cropped up, I wonder how many people have heard of the Australian explorer on whose exploits the book, "The Last Explorer" was based.

    He had quite a few "firsts" to his name, but the majority of Australians have never heard of him.

    My personal favourite has had one mention so far.

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    A difficult question to answer, one mans fish is another mans poisson. Take your choice from any of these, But I dare say each state would gravitate towards their particular area of interest, Bob




    Project Gutenberg Australia gratefully acknowledges the significant contribution of Sue Asscher in preparing many of the eBooks relating to Australian Explorers, which are available from this page.
    Journals of Australian Land and Sea Explorers and Discoverers
    In March1606 Willem Janszoon, on board the Duyfken, charted about 300 km of the west coast of Cape York Peninsula in Queensland. He is the first authenticated discoverer of Australia. From that time many seafarers made contact with the Australian coast including Torres, Hartog, Pelsaert, Dampier and Cook.
    From the landing of the first fleet in 1788, the "new" inhabitants of Australia were desperate to know what lay beyond the mountains which rose about 50 kilometres inland from the coast and which formed a seeminly impenetrable barrier to exploration of the continent. There was a very practical reason for this need to know: their very survival seemed to depend on finding suitable land for grazing and cultivation. Beyond that, however, was the curiosity which has always driven men to discovery.
    Gradually the map of the inland of the continent was drawn, first with the discovery, by Blaxland Lawson and Wentworth, of a way across the Blue Mountains, and then by men such as Sturt, Oxley, Eyre, Stuart, Giles, Leichhardt, and Burke and Wills. The outline of the continent was mapped by navigators including Cook, Flinders, King and Stokes.
    At the time of their discoveries there was great interest in the exploits of these explorers and it was a was a common practice for them to prepare a journal of their expeditions for publication in England. Then, for more than a century afterwards, their exploits were taught in schools.
    A reassessment has since taken place, where settlement is seen as invasion and exploration is seen as expropriation. Of course, these were men of their time and as such behaved in a way which would be unacceptable to us now. However, their courage, determination and curiosity shine through in their writing. Furthermore, in reading their journals we are able to take part in the journeys which they made. Sue Asscher, who prepared many of the ebooks listed below, summed it up very well when she commented "I do love and hate the explorers: they kill anything that moves, turn turtles over, poke through graves, look up grass skirts, take things for further examination never to be returned, scoff at anything superstitious, etc. taking notes all the time...and then call, with a sneer, some native girls who come to take a look at them, the explorers, 'the inquisitive sex'".
    We have here at Project Gutenberg Australia, in ebook form, one of the most comprehensive collections in the world of the journals of Australian explorers. Furthermore, the 'HTML' versions contain the illustrations which were included in the original publications. Click on the explorer's name to see an image of the explorer, biographical information, and a sketch map of the routes travelled. Also see the Australian Explorers page for more information about Australian land and sea exploration.









    Gregory BLAXLAND (1778-1853)

    • The Journal of Gregory Blaxland, 1813 (1913)--Text-- ZIP--HTML--ZIPPED HTML Includes a number of photographs taken in 1913, at the time of the centenary of the crossing, edited by Frank Walker (1861-1948)
      (Incorporating "Journal of a Tour of Discovery Across the Blue Mountains, NSW, in the year 1813".)

    David CARNEGIE (1871-1900)


    William CARRON (1821-1876) (A survivor of Kennedy's Expedition to Cape York in 1848)

    • Narrative of an Expedition Undertaken Under the Direction of E. B. Kennedy (1849)--Text--ZIP

    James COOK (1728-1779)


    William DAMPIER (1651-1715)


    Edward John EYRE (1815-1901)


    Matthew FLINDERS (1774-1814)


    John and Alexander FORREST


    Ernest GILES


    Frank and Augustus GREGORY


    George GREY


    William HOVELL and Hamilton HUME


    Alexander and Frank JARDINE


    Phillip Parker KING


    William LANDSBOROUGH


    Ludwig LEICHHARDT


    David LINDSAY


    John MacGILLIVRAY


    John McKINLAY


    Thomas MITCHELL


    John OXLEY


    John Lort STOKES

    • Discoveries in Australia, with an Account of the Coasts and Rivers Explored and Surveyed During the Voyage of H.M.S. Beagle, in the Years 1837-38-39-40-41-42-43. Also a Narrative of Captain Owen Stanley's Visits to the Islands in the Arafura Sea.)Volume 1 Volume 2

    John McDouall STUART


    Charles STURT


    Abel TASMAN


    Frederick WALKER


    Peter Warburton


    William John WILLS

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    Don't forget Augustus Gregory, William Landsborough, Nat Buchanan, Harry Redford, and Fred Diehm. Fred was one of either Gregory or Landsborough expeditions. There are still Diehms in the Winton, Cloncurry, Mt. Isa districts. Hard bush people, the Diehms, tank sinkers, fencers, delvers, bore drainers, land clearers. Any hard physical bush work and there was likely a Diehm there with axe, shovel and callouses. These guys went out into the unexplored areas of Western Queensland and the NT, and, true bushmen, survived where the big time names and their well equipped parties perished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post
    Since the phrase 'last explorer" (or something like) that has cropped up, I wonder how many people have heard of the Australian explorer on whose exploits the book, "The Last Explorer" was based.

    He had quite a few "firsts" to his name, but the majority of Australians have never heard of him.

    My personal favourite has had one mention so far.

    Absolutely no argument that Sir (George) Hubert Wilkins was a/. an Australian and b/. an explorer of great courage and achievement. Unfortunately for him he was born about 100 years too late, ie. he came at the end of the 'great exploration era' with plenty of 'explorers' both great and otherwise lauded before him.
    From an 'Australian' aspect, the majority of his achievements/fame were not to do with Australia.
    Mt. Bryan, a fly spot town in SA is a place I've driven through often which proudly proclaims itself as "The birthplace of Sir Hubert Wilkins", is a place I have not stopped in to 'have a look'.

    I'm madly trying to recall the famous Australian aviator killed in an aeroplane crash in the Italian? alps who was also a very under recognised explorer.

    Deano

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    I'd vote for John McDougall Stuart, because he discovered so much and showed you didn't need to cart a huge amount of gear around or drive a herd of sheep or cattle to survive, but could learn quite a lot about living off the land, for example by eating what he called a bush cucumber to reduce scurvy.

    Secondly, I go to Ludwig Leichardt because he travelled so far and mapped so much.

    Thirdly, like a post above, I reckon the Dutch such as Jansen deserve more recognition for mapping so much well before the British turned up.

    Fourthly, the unknown Aboriginals who got here first.

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