Thread: Low IQ + Alcohol =

I've often wondered what the other factor is too. It's easy to point the finger at booze but while it doesn't help it's not the sole reason why people end up behaving like this as the are only a tiny percentage of the people out there on the night having a drink. I suspect the biggest failing in these clowns is self control.

I believe that one of the biggest reasons is that people are no longer embarrassed about their actions when they sober up. I grew up in a generation where if you acted like a goose with a skin full you copped the bagging and humiliation afterwards. I have mates who I refused to drink with if they didn't drink mid strength. They just turn into idiots on heavy alcohol.
We have a massive problem in Townsville at the moment with break and enters and car theft. They break in, steal the keys, and take the car. They can get violent when confronted.They face court time and time again and walk. What rights do we have as law abiding citizens. Do you want your pride and joy returned with cigarette burns in the seats. My wife's friends had a 9 month old in the house whilst they were broken into. I have a German Shepherd and zip ties ready. I would be the one who goes to jail though. Are they ever made to pay for the damage they cause? Do they have to front the victims who are traumatised by their actions? They think it is a game. They get let off and their mates think they are cool. If I catch them in my house it is game on. I have a 2 month old and a 15 month old. Did I mention the German Shepherd?

National Service perhaps, and a "hex" type bill for damage or medical costs incurred for the victims recovery to be paid after they learn a bit of respect.
If their parents can't prepare them for society and respect themselves and others, perhaps there is another way.

I'd also be using all the cheap labour in our jails to be building a national standardised rail system to remove most of the semi trailers of major roads. Road repairs, road toll, who's serious.
Maybe even that great inland water pipe that has been bandied around for decades.

You will find in most cases it is not just alcohol but other drugs taken as well. The problem is in most cases the police cannot test for drugs without cause or the person being in charge of a motor vehicle.

I believe it starts with the parents when kids are little. Kids learn by watching and copying. It should be do ad I do and not do as I say. Parents shoiuld be roll models for their kids. Sure there are those kids who choose to stray, and sometimes it is the company they keep. One can only hope that their kids have learned some sense growing up.

The old saying "work hard , play hard" is bitting itself on the bum. You work people harder, with more pressure, then they let that pressure off outside work. You only need to look at the increasing rate of assaults by athletes on the plonk and compare it to a few generation's ago. Then you need to compare the training regime(injury frequency, time at top, fitness level) of those same athletes to see the reality.
As to the break and enters/ car theft, that's soft judges and under age crime = get no time. It's also one of the reasons with 5 kids 13-2 I've got 2 sharpish decorative movie props from highlander and Conan . Also along with an identical theft happening to my father whilst he an, sister and her husband where asleep they took his car and he lives 2 streets away , about 250m. The 2, 16 year olds got a warning and the 17 yr. old got a suspended sentence. As well as break and enter, flogging the car, they drove out past Dubbo from Dapto, stealing petrol along the way and then drove back, only getting caught after ramming a cop car at Goulburn!
P.S Chucaroo they did a study and the Avg. I,.Q inside prison is 70 compared to 98 population overall.

In a hell of a lot of these cases of violence, I believe that the "violence" is actually more a result of drugs like speed / ice / meth than the alcohol. I've seen the results of people on this stuff - the doctors and nurses in our emergency departments see it virtually every night.

As for a solution - unfortunately we are unlikely to see one with the current crop of pathetic magistrates and judges that we have in our court systems. Perhaps if some of these members of the "judiciary" or their immediate families personally experienced the results of their lame and pathetic sentencing - they might start to change their views.

I would really hate to be a copper these days - rounding up the same scum time after time, only to see our **** weak courts let them straight back out into society to do it all over again.

I like carlschmid2002's solution. Unfortunately, we don't have our German Shepherd any more. But if I ever caught one of these scum in my place - the police and courts wouldn't be involved.

The availibility of alcohol definitely needs to be curbed. i.e. earlier closing times. Drinking age needs to be increased to 21 and courts need to toughen up on sentences.

I believe the problems nowadays boils down to grog, drugs, lack of discipline and respect. I heard this morning that a 16 year old girl was arrested in Sydney for an early morning assault....................... Where are the parents????? This is what I mean by no discipline (from the parents) and respect (by the girl).

Here in Newcastle they have introduced the "Newcastle Solution" and it appears to be working. Assaults are down. Before these measures came into affect, people use to load up at home on cheap grog and head out to town at 11pm at night. Now they have less time to pre-load before heading out as they know the booze barns will start locking out at 1am and be closed at 3am.

If you can't have a good night on the town and be home by 3am, something is wrong.

NSW Premier Barry O'Farrell appears to be sitting on his hands which hints that he may be under the influence of the powerful hotel lobby. In the good 'ol US of A the National Rifle Association appears to flex a lot of muscle and look at the carnage that is being wrought there with guns.

If you have a powerful body exercising undue influence on the affairs of state, something has to go out of whack to the detriment of the voters. O'Farrell is certainly shaping up as a weak "do nothing" Premier. Oh, well the voters will get a chance next election. Problem is, powerful lobby groups have influence on all sides of politics.