Thread: What is with the Landrover hatred?

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Ford Sierra's are pretty rare here, and yet they were sold here.
There aren't many Mondeo's about either.

There weren't many landrover 120's in the UK. Probably none They were/are popular here. The Isuzu powered landrover is way more popular here than in the UK.

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Couple of things

The land rover was not optioned with the Isuzu engine in the uk so of course you want find any.

Also need to look more on the road where Mondeos are concerned , loads of them about. . In wagon form they are becoming the most popular reps car in the country due to two things. Falcon stopping doing a wagon and no diesel in the falcon range. Also commodore/ Omega two thirsty in petrol models of their wagon.
I work in the flooring industry and 70% of the reps have Mondeo's and the rest are following soon
In fact I would so far as to say that I would not be surprised if ford sold more Mondeos on the last 6 months this than Falcons

Originally Posted by Reads90

Couple of things

The land rover was not optioned with the Isuzu engine in the uk so of course you want find any.

Also need to look more on the road where Mondeos are concerned , loads of them about. . In wagon form they are becoming the most popular reps car in the country due to two things. Falcon stopping doing a wagon and no diesel in the falcon range. Also commodore/ Omega two thirsty in petrol models of their wagon.
I work in the flooring industry and 70% of the reps have Mondeo's and the rest are following soon
In fact I would so far as to say that I would not be surprised if ford sold more Mondeos on the last 6 months this than Falcons

Every supermarket car park I enter has at least one Mondeo already there. Seriously good car, very quiet and composed at 180km/h and used for business use everywhere.

I haven't read right back through this thread but I think I'm a bit of an expert with Land Rover hatred. Recently swaying from being a Land Rover hater. And I do still sway to the dark side often.

My biggest issue was how things are done. I thought I was pretty switched on Mechanically, then comes Land Rover. I have rebuilt motors and more than doubled their power from factory. I have owned 37 vehicles and I'm 37 years old. The I have been stranded by 2 Toyotas but I have driven over a million km and both those Toyotas were over 20 years old. The first was a set of broken points in a 1978 Toyota Corolla and then a broken fan belt in the same year model FJ40.

When I bought my Discovery 2, about March last year, I did as most advised and checked that all the services were done by LR Mech. I don't recall now and I'm too lazy to check the book but it was a well known LR place around Brisbane.

I bought it in Brisbane, cancelled the rego, got a permit and drove it to Canberra. It sat in front of my place for about a week before it was trucked to Darwin.

The whole purpose for the purchase was, as I'd been to Darwin several times myself, I knew there was plenty to see and do. I have a family of 4 and expected a few visitor, both family and friends so I wanted a 7 seat 4x4. I picked up the Disco for $13,000 which was about half the price of the equivalent Toyota or Nissan.

After I got to Darwin and moved into the new house I got a chance to look over the thing and then I start to realize what rubbish I'd bought and why it's so cheap.

When things are working, it's great and I love it. Well sort of love it as I'm constantly worried whats going to break next. They have some good ideas but the ideas have flaws and that's why other manufactures haven't taken them up.

Like the TD5 with each injector having it's own pump. That's a great idea because a pump can fail and you have 4 left to get you home but what idiot thought it would be good to run the wiring harness inside with the oil.

I have ACE which is great how it handles on road and then allows articulation off road but the system is so sensitive to oil and leaks. Now I've had it, I wish all vehicles had it. But there has been the time mine failed. What a head ache.

I had a Toyota 75 series troopy as a work truck a few years ago. If I could get the kids in and out easier and had forward facing seats that would have been my choice by far. I pretty sure with the money I have spent on the Disco, I could have bought a trooy with half a million km, it would have cost less to fix up and not been as worried as I am about the Disco breaking.

But then when everything is working in the Disco. I have rear air so the kids are comfortable, I'm cruising along with the arm rests down, in my leather seats and climate control, using less fuel than a new Hi-Lux, enjoying the ride from the SLS, listening to my million speaker stereo (the ones that still work), passing a 75 series toyota blowing smoke as it climbs a small hill at 60km/h.

Oh and the centre diff. What the? LR didn't even save the money of not putting it in they only saved a few cents of not hooking it up. I should have never told the Toyota guys at work about that. "What's that, its a bit boggy" "Just put you CDL in" "Oh wait, it never got connected from the factory". Bloody Land Rover just doing half a job, like so many of the repairs.

Another problem is because they are so different, either Mechs don't know how to fix them or they charge a fortune. The ones that don't know how to fix them, don't fix them properly so you have to get it fixed again and it costs again. If I couldn't have been fixing this Disco myself, it would have been sold a long time ago.

I'm currently a Landy fan but only because everything is working.

Happy Days.

Originally Posted by joel0407

Another problem is because they are so different, either Mechs don't know how to fix them or they charge a fortune. The ones that don't know how to fix them, don't fix them properly so you have to get it fixed again and it costs again. If I couldn't have been fixing this Disco myself, it would have been sold a long time ago.

I'm currently a Landy fan but only because everything is working.

Happy Days.

Thanks for that, the last point is so spot on. And that is one of the main reasons TD5 Landies are not popular away from the main centres. Toyotas have the mechanics trained & experienced, out in the bush. If you take a TD5 Landy out there , you must be prepared to fix it yourself. And that is why this forum is so important to Land Rover Owners in remote areas. Nothing wrong with Toyotas, they are a good vehicle. But, with Land Rovers, you take ownership of your drive by being totally involved with the vehicle. It is like a love affair, love/ hate, back to love. BTW, $13,000 for a TD5 without CDL? Should have paid no more than $9,000, Bob

I love them, don't know why. Currently changing an engine and gearbox in one of the utes and have to pull the floor and seat box out... I'll never know what they were thinking when they designed it.

Originally Posted by sheerluck

Well there's one on CarSales: 1988 Ford Sierra Cosworth

Plenty of cars for sale in Australia that were never sold new here.

I like my Series III because when I lift the bonnet I know what I'm looking at. And because it's very basic, if I can't fix it, I can usually find someone who can.

Coop

Originally Posted by bob10

BTW, $13,000 for a TD5 without CDL? Should have paid no more than $9,000, Bob

Oh no. It has the CDL. My wife decided to take it for a drive while I had the front prop shaft out. I had taken it out the afternoon before, locked the CDL while under there. I then went to work night shift, came home and went to bed. That afternoon she tells me she took the Disco for some reason. I asked if it went alright, apparently it did.

I took the shaft to a drive shaft place up here to get checked over as it's just something else that often goes wrong with Discos. They said it was all tight and seamed fine so I took it home greased it and put it back.

So yeah. CDL but no selector. I'm going to add an air operated one. I know the proper job is best but they cost $300 plus. I just want to make it easier than crawling underneath with a 10mm spanner Bloody LR idiots.

Happy Days